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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Quote from: Hoppy on December 19, 2012, 03:47:45 AM
Excellent detective work! Just one more puzzle to solve before you rest - how did he do the aqua2 trick?
Excellent video analysis Wattsup.

By scientific standards, this is not a proof that TK's Device was powered externally by a wire up a guy's sleeve.
...but in the light of lack of any scientific evidence that TK's device was powered entirely internally, your video analysis creates a preponderance of proof on the side of an external supply of power . 
In other words, the balance of probabilities regarding the greenbox video, is on the side of a fraud/hoax, now.

This evidence would not hold up in a criminal court, because a much higher standard of proof is required there.
The same goes for science.

P.S.
What's your opinion of the Aqua2 video?

wattsup

Quote from: forest on December 19, 2012, 04:22:27 AM
There is no point for discussing possible hoax in this thread  >:( If you don't believe TK device is real then fine, but inventing more and more conspiracy theories wouldn't help.

@forest

WTF are you talking about. Take a length of wire, roll it in your hand as many times as you want and you will see both sides of your hand have the same numbers of wires. Also, if you did some TK experiments that you have posted on this thread, then maybe you can tell me that hoax theories are not wanted, but truth is the truth so were does the hoax theory come from. I don't deal in hoax theories, only proof is what matters. We went through the whole process of R&D on this and are still light years away. Why the hell do you think that is so? Also, I get e-mailed and PM'd by silent @members all the time for TK updates so I am talking to those who want to know.

@Hoppy

TK faked all of his devices and just finding one is enough to disqualify all of them. You can't fake one and all of a sudden really discover OU. I does not work that way and any more time on this is just a waste of time so all that is left is my final post to rant about all these fuckin people that have purported OU secrets. TK knows how to make a spark in a spark gap, then he dresses it up AND MAKES MONEY SHOWING IT. End of story.

@all

I am still in shock from finding that wire and realizing how all these TK videos have been made as a simple trick. For me, TK is now officially the Bullshit King because his thread has gone the longest because it took us all this time to find out.

After careful review of my OU activities these last many months that were overdosed with TK crap, I am now formally leaving the dead end alley of figuring out how others made their devices work the way they did because after all these years I have come to realize that there are some unchangeable laws of human nature that lead to some basic and unfortunate truths about people purporting to have an OU secret that they do not want to divulge.

ONE Law of OU.

1) He who says he has OU but does not fully disclose the function is a liar and a cheat.

They will have to lie in order to not give out their secret and they will have to cheat to not give out the lie. Both go hand in hand so anything a secret holder tells you is 99.99999% likely to be a lie and they will lie (using OU lingo) and cheat to send you astray. This is the Basic Obligation or Driving Force behind any OU Secret Holder in order to remain an OU Secret Holder. You cannot keep a secret and tell the truth at the same time. Basic logic but what we lack is basic determination and resolve when confronted with an OU secret holder.

Regardless if the device is real or not, that is not the question here, because real or not does not help the world right now. It only puts conditions on something that cannot have conditions. OU is unconditional and cannot be dispensed with conditions or business deals. Lies and cheats can however and have for so long monopolized the forefront of the OU endeavor.

Why is there no room for negotiation when it comes to OU?

Well..........because a true OUer knows that there is no greater gift a man (or a group of men) can give to this world of ours, then free energy. That's why I am here and I am sure that's why most are here or in the silent rooms. If not, then you are just wasting our time running after ghosts. Find the truth as fast as possible is our only modus of survival but how can you do that if you are following lies and cheats?

So.........forget all the doomsday crap about collapsing economies (financial tactic), forget all the talk of people blowing up using the device (military tactic), forget all the warnings about MIBs and the Cabal (policing tactic), forget about all the handcuffing laws you learned in EE school (academic tactic), forget about all the illusions you think you need to be happy and socially successful (greed tactic). It takes a special person to be able to do that and an even more special person to discover and give OU free to the world. That person will be remembered forever while all these other clowns will soon be forgotten and in most cases despised for their altruistic avarice and other non-human attributes.

So all these wanna-be's that hold their secrets should all be thrown in the trash, and @members that really work on OU should just go by one rule. Never waste time on someone elses secrets. OUers should work on their own devices or on devices that are openly disclosed and in process of development by other fully open sourcing OUers. Anything else is a pure waste of time, vision, energy and money. We all have a set number of clicks before we ourselves reset back to the ether. It's up to us to spend those clicks the best way possible.

Real case in point: Today, I and many others can hit our heads against the wall for hours understanding that when @otto was with us, we should have paid more attention. He was a true OUer always willing to give of himself and of what he found on the bench. Instead, we pushed this (higher profile) TK crap and SM crap and Mr. M (won't say his name every again) crap, and time just flew by so fast while our friend @otto was nearing his final push. We should have been there more involved with more replicators working hand in hand. His devices were not exotic and all could have partaken and maybe we would have learned one pertinent fact or standardized just one pertinent effect, instead of being left with a wide selection of TK and SM empty minded guessologies.

So it looks like this 21st of December, 2012 may have some truth to it after all. The new era of lies falling and truth rising. Mayan leaders insist it's just a calendar coming to an end and starting over the next day. No doomsday there man. Anyways it just seems so apropos.

Sorry for ranting but this TK thing is really hard to take. I had so much hope in this being real. TK was actually offered a free pass for so long because his demos looked so real. So if you think TK is your friend, you better revise your definition of friend. Friends don't screw you left, right and center.

@Sergey77 PMed me about TK on a boat. It does not matter on a boat, on a plane, or in the deep of Niagara Falls. If they planned it in advance, I know from now on that any time TK ever does a demo, I can find how he did it. I can find his trick so what is the point then. Doing R&D is hard enough, doing it based on a trick is a pure waste of time and TK just sitting on the sidelines letting all these human efforts just sway back and forth wasting so much human potential just so TK and gang can make a few bucks doing his grand show to pay for some more vodka is so heartbreaking to realize, it just makes me sick.

So back to the workbench and no more secret finding for me.
New sayings.......
- The best OU secrets are the ones you just ignore.
- The worst OU secrets are the ones you waste your life on".

And to @elementSix. Please know I did not want to offend you and my take on this is not against you personally because I think you are a good guy on the right side of the intent scale, but that both the TK and even SM devices should be left in the junk bin. Both are encircled in shady deals, shady videos, always hiding secrets and I am just afraid that like many here that have spent to long on them, you will do the same when your talents could be used for more immediate and pertinent help to real OU developers. Just know that everything in the SM devices, videos, could have been done with hidden batteries and a few nick nacks, all available at Radio Shack. That engineer report or any other report if commissioned by SM stating the device worked xx minutes is the only thing that ever provided a 10% level of credibility but in the end, it is total bull because those reports can be bought for a few grand or more. Peanuts compared to the money these guys attracted. Happens all the time.

These guys, TK/SM found a money model that worked and they stuck with it and both showed that as time progressed, they improved their techniques and made more elaborate designs. There modus is show short instances of the OU illusion saying you need to develop a better prototype and let the investors' greed take over the rest. A few greed stricken investors are more reactive then a giant school of starving Piranha. They just have to get their bite out of it at all cost. A local business friend of mine just lost 60k investing in a magnet motor that I told him two years ago had no chance in hell of working the way they had it set up. But all he talked about was "Can you imagine the market". These money guys are so stupid when you manage to push their get rich quick button, they just go on overload. But like he said "Hey, it's only money". TK knows this and so did SM. So as long as there are investors out there that make decisions while in greed mode, these guys have it made. Lie, cheat and get paid for it. But meanwhile back at the workbench, true OUers are led astray. Bahhhhhh, what the hell.

I have been in business for over 40 years now and I can say that success is a blend of a challenging opportunity and readiness to meet that challenge. For too long OUers have been running towards the wrong opportunities because they are really scams, fakes, frauds, liars and cheats. We will have to wake up sooner or later and take a stand against OU secrecy. It is the cancer that is eating away at our chance for success.

Back to the bench and no more distractions. I had put aside a whole check-list of experiments to do so now I can get back to what really counts.

wattsup


energia9

Quote from: wattsup on December 19, 2012, 10:26:00 AM

I have been in business for over 40 years now and I can say that success is a blend of a challenging opportunity and readiness to meet that challenge. For too long OUers have been running towards the wrong opportunities because they are really scams, fakes, frauds, liars and cheats. We will have to wake up sooner or later and take a stand against OU secrecy. It is the cancer that is eating away at our chance for success.

Back to the bench and no more distractions. I had put aside a whole check-list of experiments to do so now I can get back to what really counts.

wattsup

happyness may only come from our inner selves.
Nature holds no hoaxes for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrMJwIedrWU

peace wattsup brother

coke2k


Hoppy

Quote from: wattsup on December 19, 2012, 10:26:00 AM
@forest


@Hoppy

TK faked all of his devices and just finding one is enough to disqualify all of them. You can't fake one and all of a sudden really discover OU. I does not work that way and any more time on this is just a waste of time so all that is left is my final post to rant about all these fuckin people that have purported OU secrets. TK knows how to make a spark in a spark gap, then he dresses it up AND MAKES MONEY SHOWING IT. End of story.


wattsup

Agreed, but nonetheless it would be interesting to discover the method he used to fake the Aqua2.