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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on January 22, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
  @ Hoppy:
      Ok, what I meant was: is there any TK type of device with the same or similar working systems, that can be built and worked towards replicating. That works in a useable, practical,  daily way,  now???

   The yoke device was not even replicated using a yoke core, although they are showing a possible Metglass shaped torroid, as their replication of the yoke device. This may not be a true TK device. Doesn't even look or work like Tk devices.
Or does it?
  Makes me think that the yoke device was not what they were all really excited about, and that they stumbled onto something that they really may not want to show us. And fear was the real motive for not going further with it, to obtain a kw power output device.
  So, the solution is the same, what can be built as mentioned above? 
All you Tk followers....

I think Zeitz has answered it in his post 15694. If not faked, we really do not know how the true TK device operates or constructed and which components are doing real work and which are just for eye candy. There are many different ideas and theories in this extremely long thread, so take your pick and throw a few coils, transistors, thyristors, rectifiers etc, together like the rest of us have and have fun searching for that elusive OU. My own guess is that the team working on the Yoke device simply finally realised that it was not working OU and put it on the shelf.

verpies

Quote from: NickZ on January 22, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
The yoke device was not even replicated using a yoke core, although they are showing a possible Metglass shaped torroid, as their replication of the yoke device.
The Yoke device was repeated several times by the STAAR team using the old Soviet semi-conical black ferrite.
Indeed Wesley was showing a one piece toroidal ferrite core at the end of this video, but it was more for the demonstration of winding direction, layout and connection. He openly admits that he was not successful with this core material and shape.

Quote from: NickZ on January 22, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
This may not be a true TK device. Doesn't even look or work like Tk devices.  Or does it?
We don't really know what TK device looks like because some of its components are always concealed. In reference to the attached schematic, the large helical coil (L0) that is always visible does not have to participate in energy release at all, it could be only a low pass output filter (a choke) or part of a buck-converter. If the coils L1 and L2 and the matter inside them are responsible for energy release and hidden inside a "black box" then it might create illusion that the large helical coil (L0) is responsible for it.

The operating principle of the Yoke device and the tubular coils might be the same or different. We simply do not know, even if one of these principles is a magic show.

With certainty, I can write only one statement when comparing STAAR team's Yoke device and the tubular TK devices, namely a closed high permeability path of the Yoke core is much more efficient than the open path of tubular devices.  This is the same reason why a toroid is more magnetically efficient shape than a solenoid.

Quote from: NickZ on January 22, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
Makes me think that the yoke device was not what they were all really excited about, and that they stumbled onto something that they really may not want to show us. And fear was the real motive for not going further with it, to obtain a kW power output device.
Maybe, but that's pure speculation and not even a technical one.  It implies a lot of intentional deception, too.
I would not be surprised if Wesley gets offended and starts calling you "Sir" now.

Quote from: NickZ on January 22, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
So, the solution is the same, what can be built as mentioned above? 
All you Tk followers....
I am not a TK follower despite posting in this thread. To me TK is just a distraction from the real McCoy.

IMO if you can obtain the OC-90.38ПЦ12 black soviet ferrite then should do Yoke Device replication, because there is much more technical information available about it than about tubular TK's devices and a half-way decent evidence was presented that it was really OU.

verpies

Quote from: Hoppy on January 22, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
My own guess is that the team working on the Yoke device simply finally realized that it was not working OU and put it on the shelf.
Do you think that they were deceiving themselves or were deceiving us intentionally ?
Could that light bulb be lit to that brightness with just 5W of power from the signal generators ?

phoneboy

If the yolk device was nmr then I think it just ran out of gas (transmuted), they should try graphite carbon->boron->carbon........                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Hoppy

Quote from: verpies on January 22, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
Do you think that they were deceiving themselves or were deceiving us intentionally ?
Could that light bulb be lit to that brightness with just 5W of power from the signal generators ?

All I can say is firstly, that lamp brightness is a very poor indicator of power level and the video camera does not necessarily relay by video an accurate brightness or colour intensity level to that observed at the bench. As to whether the signal generator could light the bulb to the brightness as observed by the team at the bench, only the team can determine this. I do not think and hope that the team had any intention to deceive us. Some experimenters have prematurely shouted OU and experienced disapointment later, when all build checks, measurements and computations were weighed-in. This may be the case and an admission to this would IMO deserve respect from others experimenters.