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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Grumage

Me Again.

Just to satisfy curiosity I wound two 10 turn windings on one Ferrite ring. Applied frequency 25kHz, 10 V P/P in, 20 V P/P out????????

Verified with FWBR and Cap and standard DVM. What is going on? Where is this excess coming from?

I know this is really basic stuff for a lot of you guys, for that I apologise, but sometimes it's worth going back, to go forward!!

Cheers.


SchubertReijiMaigo

QuoteFurther tinkering today saw with a 2.2 mFD cap across the open link between primary and secondary Ferrite rings. Still with 1 to 1 to 1 ratio. With 10 volts P/P in we saw 80 volts P/P at output. This only occured at around 30 kHZ I am assuming a resonant responce?


A voltage is not energy...
You have a resonant rise, try to load that, resonance get killed and loading the input like any Xformer. (conventional theory)


But you can read Hector Perez stuff (Combine.pdf) who claims that OU can be achieved with resonance especially nonlinear resonance (ferroresonance).
Their method:
Pulse a Xformer in Square wave or AC with variable frequency, tune secondary until it goes ferroresonant, measure I and V and match I*V with bulbs, re-tuning it slightly.
According to them, you should observe a voltage droop of 10 % of the nominal bulb voltage, but the bulb have full nominal output. They said that bulb (or any resistive load) work in current node hence no energy reflection.
A version with pulsed caps or voltage clipping is also available.
Important video from Dan Combine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrDMT6lSeEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_3lCG1oiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOEdFI1qXCU


Disclamer:
I haven't saw a (working) replication of that since many year, like unfortunately many FE device  :'(  , so I can't guarantee OU by that method...
This is not a claim of OU, but if you have the equipment (who is not my case) you can give it a try.
SRM.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Grumage on February 09, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
Many thanks for your reply. Do you have any ideas how I might practically implement your suggestion?
There is no lack of (perhaps non-working) ideas: Two toroidal ferrite cores are attached to each other in an angle of 90 degrees, that's the core of the parametric transformer. Now make the primary core a Joule Thief and connect the coil of the secondary core parallel to a capacitor (and the load). Adjust the capacitor's capacitance of the secondary circuit to the frequency of the Joule Thief, maybe half the frequency to get parametric resonance. (And then see if it can power 5 pieces of 1KW bulbs ... ) ::)

According to Steven E. Jones a Joule Thief running with only one core can already create Over Unity. Then what could happen when there comes a second core into play that forms a parametric transformer with the first one? Hmmm ...

Interesting because a Joule Thief drives its core into saturation while oscillating. Thus once again there is the »saturation of a transformer core«. And each time a transformer core goes into saturation someone comes along and claims to have Over Unity of some kind. And it could easily be that the Steven Marks TPU is just a large (self-powering) Joule Thief as well.


verpies

Quote from: Grumage on February 08, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
Was very interested in the parametric transformer so I had a go at making one!
I'm not replying to this because your transformer does not appear to be a parametric transformer.  I base my assessment on your experimental results which show mutual induction even with low power levels - parametric transformers exhibit zero mutual inductance between the primary and secondary windings. 
This is not a matter of "loose coupling", there is a whole chapter that describes various methods of eliminating this mutual induction. See page 200 in chapter 4 of this document.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 09, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Two toroidal ferrite cores are attached to each other in an angle of 90 degrees, that's the core of the parametric transformer.
He is describing one of the proven methods to avoid mutual inductance.  Your joining of the two toroids by the shorted center winding, is completely different.  It makes the orthogonality of the cores irrelevant.


Quote from: Grumage on February 08, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
My transformer is a 1 to 1 to 1 ratio throughout but with 10 volts P/P I get nearly 24 V P/P out.
Your scope probe has an internal capacitance and the unloaded secondary winding forms an LC circuit with it, leading to a "resonant voltage raise".  I bet that if you load the secondary with a 1k resistor, then the increased voltage will disappear.

forest

"A voltage is not energy...
You have a resonant rise, try to load that, resonance get killed and loading the input like any Xformer. (conventional theory)"

and what is the correct question ....hmm? Having the good question is like having half the answer