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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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verpies

Quote from: core on February 18, 2013, 12:38:25 AM
With all due respect that's just a silly analogy that speaks nothing of how the device may operate.
Most analogies are silly on purpose. The silliness comes from the intentional simplicity that is designed to illustrate something easily.

However, Zeitmachine's attempt to duplicate the behavior of TK's devices with off-the-shelf components should be applauded because it illustrates what is possible and what is not, empirically and conventionally.  Even if this method does not show how the device operates, it will show how it does not operate - and that is always something.

I think this approach is quite original as nobody has attempted it before.

cheappower2012

Zeitmaschine
The 2004 video device and the green box video device were created
to show that the device could be looped to rake in money.The transparent box video device
was looped,theres a funny noise connected to it,the main frequency is 400 hz,the spark
is white, a dc spark,
it varies a lot,however its much less than 30 sparks a second.In my opinion the spark does
nothing on of TK's devices its only there to
gives the impression its a Tesla invention.In the transparent box video,theres a loud noise in
starting,it takes power to start,the 9 volt alkaline battery gets drained,this means lots of current.
The noise generated is too loud
for an ordinary transformer laminations so must be a  home made component,a buzzard like device.
He may have advanced the device from a electromechanical device to a more electrical device over time.As a load is added,(lamps), the noise increases then after a while gets much less.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: cheappower2012 on February 18, 2013, 06:35:39 AM
it takes power to start,the 9 volt alkaline battery gets drained,this means lots of current.
A brand-new 9V battery gives me around 1A when short-circuited. It is a matter of opinion if 1A (at almost zero volts) is considered as lots of current.

Quote from: core on February 18, 2013, 12:38:25 AM
Imagine a pilot actuated pneumatic device that has a 0 – 20 psi main signal and a 0 – 1 psi pilot signal. So when pilot signal is 1 psi it allows 20 psi to enter the pneumatic bladder and do work.
This is called a control signal. A weak input controls a strong output (like B-E versus C-E of a transistor). This suggests that TK's inverter also sends just a control signal to the device (as set out above) but not energy actually needed to keep it running.

Quote from: verpies on February 18, 2013, 04:36:09 AM
Even if this method does not show how the device operates, it will show how it does not operate - and that is always something.
Apropos »operate«. Observation #1: I would estimate the 50Hz transformer in the 2004 video rated at 100VA. Observation #2: This would be an overkill if this transformer operates just as an ordinary power supply for the spark gap and maybe a small electronic circuit with a few milliamps of consumption. Observation #3: 50Hz transformers are very common so there should be no need to use an over-sized one without reason. Conclusion: This transformer works as an induction coil and is therefore part of the energy generation circuit.

Nevertheless it seems something in the device needs approx. 100W of power because the ammeter shows 0.5A at 220V (video 17:54). Unless of course this is reactive power just circulating between the device and the inverter.

Now maybe someone should try to replicate The Self-Exciting Joule Thief so there is one more alternative to show how the device does not operate. ::)

jbignes5

Quote from: core on February 18, 2013, 12:49:35 AM
Bizarre is the only word that comes to mind when I read this. Not trying to insult you but you would be better served saying that there is a hamster in a squirrel cage in the green box.

The first and only question to ask is: Where do we tap the extra energy from? If it comes from the air then the air must be 'pre-conditioned' first as it is in a neutral state. No other questions should be asked until this one is satisfactorily answered.
Your Beloved
-Core


What is really bizarre is Verpies pretending to be another user.


What better serves everyone is knowing where TK'S got his ideas. Do you know?


On more then one occasion TK'S references Tesla and his experiments. Knowing that, I went back to Tesla and looked for something similar to ALL of TK's experiements, not just one. The one wire system Tesla experimented with is that similarity.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. But it does take some investigation skills to recognize the similarities between the TK'S experiments and then be able to pour through all of Tesla's work to find the match. Since I had already had extensive time into researching Tesla's work it wasn't that hard to find the match.


Here is one proof. In the warehouse Motor generator you see the engineer not being able to measure the voltage or current of the box wires running the disk motor. This is because only one wire is used at a time which his meter will not read when measure in the two wire method. I haven't figured out all of it but until we make the transformer/oscillator we might as well be guessing and postulating. Like the great Verpies and now you only see part of the process then determine there is nothing to it. Well you are right if you don't use the entire setup. The Secret is The new oscillator that was so powerful that it shook NY city and caused the police to show up at Tesla's lab. The new very powerful oscillator was shown by Tesla to be unique in the sense of traditional power systems. It was static like in it's emissions and flowed outside of conductors. When the conductors outside of the main system were exposed to the field of this new oscillator they were set ablaze in white fire like streamers. Metals instantly flashed and exploded if they were thin enough(foils). Thicker metals melted but when he put his head into the emitter coil it did nothing to him.


Frankly I couldn't care what Verpies says. If you do then ask him why he felt he had to deceive all of us here to argue his point. Ask him why he had to make another account in the name of wasabi to belittle another user on this forum instead of doing the experiments that TK did? And more importantly why he feels he had to do anything in this thread. If he believes TK has nothing then why is he still here posting?


Verpies has another agenda and it is to keep the boys and girls here in line with traditional teachings. I'm not saying the traditional teachings are wrong in the context from where they were devised. These processes that we are looking at here go beyond the scope of traditional magnetics and into the realm of the static like voltage discharges that these systems take advantage of.

Another very interesting person of interest is UfoPolitics who has taken up the mantle of asymmetric electrodynamic machines. He has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tesla's ideas are very true. He is proving what the current establishment doesn't want us to know because if we did then we wouldn't need them for our power or motivator. They have driven us down a road of great inefficiency to keep the shift of money into their pockets.

stivep

QuoteWhat better serves everyone is knowing where .. got his ideas. Do you know?

There was 4 scientists
Russian one
old one
There is a documented contact record.
one day
They have been not around anymore.
That's all.
read my previous posts.


Info is legitimate.
intel.

Can not say more.
Do not ask me for specifics.




Wesley.