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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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andrea76

Quote from: dllabarre on March 22, 2013, 03:13:17 PM

That is a republish of one of Tariel's mechanical devices.  Very old.  Just look at how young Tariel looks in the video.

This video is an extended version of one posted by Frolov probably at the end of '90s.Tariel speak about gravity and electricity.it is very interesting.we need the translation.the only REAL things are the words of TK.some are good and other not but we need to works on this.he started with six 1,5 volt battery.the inverter used after  probably is used to "syncronized"the phenomenon with 50 hz sinewave....

bass

Farmhand

Thanks for the link
Then it may be in the majority of devices incorporated this principle


Farmhand

Hi Bass, Yes maybe that is possible, or at least one or more of the effects might play a role in some devices.

This also brings back up the thunderstorm delay that Tariel talked of which was brought up by Zeitmachine (sorry if spelling is not correct)
he does a lot of investigating lately, much respect to him for it too. When he brought it up I put forward the idea that it might be an excuse
in case of grid failure, but maybe there is a reason why a thunderstorm could be a genuine problem or danger.

The potential difference in the ground outward from the point of a lightning ground strike is what kills livestock. And the same effect but
excited to resonance with longer wavelengths is what I believe to be the working principal of the transmission method of Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter.
I think the theory was transmitter made the like equivalent of repetitive lightning strikes to a point on the ground and created resonant ground waves
and so a resonant varying potential in the ground.

Tesla's Transmitter in the latest patent had a single "over voltage leak off point" a kind of reverse lightning rod right on the top, in the center of the toroid
right where the charge density is the least. It's labeled "V" .  ;)

Oh and it was also discovered by Ernst over at EF recently that the "Extra coil' coil "B" is wound in the reverse direction to the
other coils "A" and "C" which is a point I missed as well as many others I guess.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=m7R9AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

Cheers

 


Hel

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 25, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
If an incandescent light bulb is connected with one pin to ground and with its second pin to an antenna then it will not shine simply because it is to low-ohmic, means the lamp's filament grounds the antenna. Therefore, how to connect a low-ohmic light bulb to an high-ohmic antenna so the antenna is not grounded and the surrounding electric field can be absorbed continuously by this antenna? All what is needed seems to be an impedance converter of some kind.

Although I'm not sure, if the antenna is put high enough into the atmosphere the lamp could shine anyway.


There's need to reason well on the point you issued.
Impendance matching can be a problem with AC, since when mismatched, reactive current goes back to the
source and no or not all power can be delivered to the load.
We are working with DC here, and if your bulb can't shine is just a matter of not enough power, plain and simple.
If you have enough power at your source, whatever it is, the myth of downstepping HV with all related problems
and magic required are not existing, period. You have an electrostatic machine, or a HV power supply capable
of delivering, say, 15 Watts, no matter how high the voltage, if you connect a 15 Watt incandescent bulb to it,
no matter if rated for 12 or 220 V, it will shine to its full brightness. This applies to AC sources also, since our
test load (the bulb) is purely ohmic. Radio operators know this trick since beginning of times, to check for
power output of a transmitter. I also use this method to check the available power when I build HV supplies.
It's called voltage drop.


Now, air is the dielectric and we live between two charged plated of a capacitor, earth and ionosphere.
But, unlikely as with a plain capacitor, the upper boundary between insulator and dielectric is not net: air
is insulating at our pressure of about 1 bar, but going up with altitude, it becomes more and more thin
and more and more conductive until becoming the ionosphere.
So it's clear that going higher and higher with the collecting aerial, both the E field w.r.t ground increases, but
also the air becomes more conducting, and one can start having an interesting flow of charges.
This is valid considering a smooth aerial. If we employ a sharp one, we must take also ionization into account,
which furtherly helps lowering air resistance near the tip.
The main problem is being able to use a reasonably short aerial, or even no aerial at all (both the Kapanadze
and Testatika have no "explicit" aerials !) But, oh well, if even an aerial of few meters allowed us to obtain
some hundred watts or more from air, it wouldn't be so bad either !
The problem is, even using an external HV source to both negatively ionize and also increase the E field at
the antenna tip, that would still require a very large surface collection area for the collected charges to
be enough to light up a small bulb. Air is an insulator, and even ionizing it or increasing the local field, you
end up getting just the free charges near the collector points, and some time is necessary for those depleted
areas to replenish naturally. This is the big problem. An either very large or very high ionized conduction channel
has to be created. Without any trick, the best one can obtain with an aerial is charging a capacitor which
discharges thru a spark gap into a bulb maybe once or twice a day. This is the power, just get an ammeter
and a voltmeter and try with an aerial: some hundred volts at few microamps if you're lucky; perhaps something
more during thunderstorms. Until one can't find a way to increase this power, it's pointless to speak of how to
downstep or convert or stabilize this feeble energy to a more convenient voltage, current and form.


So I have the suspect that, if some guy actually ever accomplished to collect and use air electricity to some
useful extent, he emploied some hard to graps trick, maybe involving magnets or alternating electric fields.
I know that plain science tells us nothing useful to this proposal.
I read of many patents of old devices to collect air electricity employing magnets - but I could not detect
any interaction between magnets and static electricity to date.
Maybe there's some key frequency at which air ions move better ? So that, let's guess, between two plates
powered by AC at that frequency we can get some surplus from air, resulting in a net charge accumulated over
time at the plates, which we can then discharge into a load at a good rate ? I'm just guessing.