Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[NickZ]

   Verpies:
   You are comparing apples with pears. Your betavoltaic example, which were mostly using low voltage galvanics as the electricity production means, and/or Hydrogen Isotopes don't relate to gamma decay. Nor did they produce any real useful current output, anything like 10kw, or so.

  As far as I know or have seen the Edison Battery idea has not been replicated to produce the 10kw, by anyone else, lately. Have the Colman tests been replicated?

  How can you say that X-rays emitted from Crt tubes are non-harmful, how can you be so sure. First time I've heard of this. People have died from exposure x-ray radiation, although possibly not from Tv sets.
Same thing with cell phones? Not harmful? It may take years before any real conclusive evidences are obtained.
 
  When one bangs a ferrite coil with extreme HV, combined with short wave emissions, a broadband of radiations can be obtained. Without an means to control it. How can anyone really know what the outcome will be.  Will you be the one to test this... just put Al foil over it.
Tk has foiled his walls, must be for a reason.  The diagram presented previously showed that foil will not stop certain types of radiation, that only lead would. I don't know if this is correct, but, who will be the one to find out. Wesley feels that this is safer than his successful yoke coil experiments, that he was scared to follow up on.
  a.king has also mentioned no such radiation poisoning related disorders noticed by his group.

  Magnetic resonant current passes through most anything.  Especially through ones entire body, concrete walls, etz...

  I admit that there are many things that I don't know.  That is the point...

  But, to relate Alfa/Beta/Gamma radiation experiment with what TK was doing, is stretching it a bit.  He was stating that the energy comes from the ambient, not a destructive and possibly dangerous radioactive decay process.  If he was wrong, why can't ANYONE replicate ANY of his experiments using only similar old junk parts, like he showed, just to prove the point???  He was not needing to use two signal generators, special frequencies, and "special ferrite cores".  Only an old dead car battery/inverter set up, or just a regular 9v battery, to kick start what appeared to be just regular air coils combined with an ordinary air gap. The trick as Zeit has mentioned, may be in the wiring, as also repeatedly mentioned by SM, on his many TPU devices. This is what I feel we still need to focus on.

  We are deviating from the TK tests into unknown and dangerous areas, even though there may be some similarities.
  The ideas of only fake devices to fool people into advancing money, has stopped us from finding the true effect generation and working causes of the Kapanadze experiments.

[Zeitmaschine]

Seebeck Effect requires a close contact between two dissimilar metals and a large temperature difference between them.
Kapanadze Motor does not satisfy either of these conditions. Those 3 videos clearly show people touching those disks with naked hands, without getting burned.

And without getting frozen? Actually the Peltier effect is more of interest here since the input is not heat but a magnetic field, and the output is not electric current but mechanical work.

Also, the Seebeck effect is a very weak effect (proportional to the surface area of the metal junction) and is incapable of producing 1kW of power with those metal junction contact areas and concealable temperature gradients.

But nevertheless something is capable of producing 1kW of power here.

Finally, the 1st video shows two brass disks (no dissimilar metals)

Says who?

I strongly suspect what those vibrations are but you'd not like my explanation. Anyway it is not Seebeck effect noise.

But those vibrations have to do something with the generation of the mechanical energy, I suspect. Otherwise there would be no need for the foam.

I hate to rain on your parade,

Nothing else expected.

but the only Seebeck junctions in such configuration would be the tiny points of contact where the coil wound on the shaft touches the disks (the area of wire crossection).

This reminds me on a crystal detector consisting of a thin wire that lightly touches a crystal of semiconducting mineral. But regardless of its tiny points this configuration has a huge impact on how the current goes through it. Hmmm ...

Also, as soon as two plates of a capacitor are connected with a conductor (the coil on the shaft), the capacitor stops being a capacitor.

Now that's odd. A capacitor connected to a coil stops being a capacitor?

Finally, the 50cm distance between the disk surfaces would make the eventual capacitance between those disks miniscule especially when the dielectric is predominantly air.

This depends on the frequency. Unfortunately no measurements were taken.

If there are no belts in the pillow blocks, then the HF stimulation of the disks should be significant to the method of device operation.

So, and what exactly is this method of device operation? Has there been a replication attempt so far? Two rotating discs on a shaft and not the slightest attempt for replication yet? Maybe it's so simple that no one can imagine that this works.

So where is the Schlaraffenland device? After over 1001 pages of arabian nights storytelling, I expect some serious shit and replications, otherwise I must assume the Kapanadze device is utter bullshit.

It is bullshit in a tin can.

[Grumage]

   Verpies:
   You are comparing apples with pears. Your betavoltaic example, which were mostly using low voltage galvanics as the electricity production means, or/or  hydrogen isotopes don't relate to gamma decay. Nor did they produce any real useful current output, anything like 10kw, or so.
  As far as I know or have seen the Edison Battery idea has not been replicated to produce the 10kw, by anyone. Have the Colman tests been replicated?

  How can you say that X-rays emitted from Crt tubes are non-harmful, how can you be so sure. First time I've heard of this. People have died from exposure x-ray radiation, although possibly not from Tv sets.
Same thing with cell phones? Not harmful? It may take years before any real conclusive evidences are obtained.
 
  When one bangs a ferrite coil with extreme HV, combined with short wave emissions, a broadband of radiations can be obtained. Without an means to control it. How can anyone really know what the outcome will be.  Will you be the one to test this... just put Al foil over it.
Tk has foiled his walls, must be for a reason.  The diagram presented previously showed that foil will not stop certain types of radiation, that only lead would. I don't know if this is correct, but, who will be the one to find out. Wesley feels that this is safer than his successful yoke coil experiments, that he was scared to follow up on.
  a.king has also mentioned no such radiation poisoning related disorders noticed by his group.

  Magnetic resonant current passes through most anything.  Especially through ones entire body, concrete walls, etz...

  I admit that there are many things that I don't know.  That is the point...

  But, to relate Alfa/Beta/Gamma radiation experiment with what TK was doing, is stretching it a bit.  He was stating that the energy comes from the ambient, not a destructive and possibly dangerous radioactive decay process.  If he was wrong, why can't ANYONE replicate ANY of his experiments using only similar old junk parts, like he showed, just to prove the point???  He was not needing to use two signal generators, special frequencies, and "special ferrite cores".  Only an old dead car battery/inverter set up, or just a regular 9v battery, to kick start what appeared to be just regular air coils combined with an ordinary air gap. The trick as Zeit has mentioned, may be in the wiring, as also repeatedly mentioned by SM, on his many TPU devices. This is what I feel we still need to focus on.

  We are deviating from the TK tests into unknown and dangerous areas, even though there may be some similarities.
  The ideas of only fake devices to fool people into advancing money, has stopped us from finding the true effect generation and working causes of the Kapanadze experiments.

Dear NickZ.

As you no doubt have noticed by now, NMR is MY pet subject. I don't think that all the other members of this forum will agree. However this is my chosen route and I personally will assess any danger and proceed accordingly.

What I am trying to say here, is that each and every member of this group will have their own ideas and I for one will not stand in their way. We all have a freedom for expression here, so please DO carry on with your personal project and pass on what you learn.

I PM'd Verpies some weeks ago regarding this subject. I have to confess that mathematics is not my best subject and he agreed to help me....... But only if it was kept open for all to see. I too agreed to this as any findings will be of use to all. Isn't that what a forum is for?

So please Nick, let's not get personal, let's get experimenting!!

Cheers Grum.

[NickZ]

  Maybe the BS is not in the can...

[NickZ]

  Grum:
   I do understand, and value Verpies decision, but, you are not the only one involved, or that can be involved.
  I'm only adding my suggestions, which anyone is free to do with as they please.
My point has not been to get personal, only to be objective, as the TK experiments are one of the most important and potentially most useful projects of all time.
  I'm not trying to throw a monkey wrench into your works, so please do what you feel is best. 
  My point was that this other new direction, may take us even further away from finding the true reason that the Kapandze projects function.
  Time will tell...