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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Quote from: shiba on May 22, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
Hi, Sparks,
Is it possible to gain energy from hydrogen atom ground state?
Part 2
Bibligraphy:
http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_radius
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00843.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave
http://www.chem1.com/acad/webtut/atomic/qprimer/index.html
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/General_Chemistry/The_Quantum_Model
Gauge Institute Journal Vol. 2 No 4, November 2006
Thankyou for you interest.  I am sure that the Bohr model was abandoned due to normalization.  There could be infinite electron velocities which would place them in infinite positions relative to the confining neuclear charge.   I just picture a proton and electron meeting for the first time.  The electron is drawn towards the neucleus but since the neucleus has mass it bends space.  The electron is attempting to go straight at the proton but finds itself spiraling around the cone created by the neucleus.   It increases it's velocity until the centrifugal force equals the centripedal force.  This happens most of the time in the dimensions defined by the 1s orbital.  The monatomic hydrogen atom is born.  This is not to say that all electrons do this.  I am sure many pass straight through the core go out to a zenith freeze and turn straight back in again.  Two protons will obviously have more associated centripedal force so the balancing centrifugal force will require the electron to acquire greater velocity or acquire mass.
You can hold the mass constant and increase it's velocity or you can hold it's velocity constant and increase it's mass.  Einstein predicted as a particle approaches the speed of light it's mass increases.  This is a quantom effect.  It doesn't make any difference because either way the electron settles down at some mass velocity.  All electrical energy is conversion of this electron mass velocity from an atomic level to a macroscopic level.  Photons light electical waves are all the same thing they are transference of inertia from one place in the Universe to the other.   But what are they doing?  They are disrupting the local electric field emitted by electrons and protons.  The electrons in a copper conductor that are free are moving at incredible velocities from atom to atom.   Electricity is not like water.  We don't shove an electron in one end and have it fall out the other.  We create disruptive electric fields that allow for the conversion of electron mass velocity into energy.
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Quote from: verpies on May 22, 2013, 09:40:09 AM
I did not know that!
That opens up a whole new arena for clandestine power delivery.

I am going to add this fact to my previous post.
Yes, I see the horizontal bands, but Rossi openly admits that he has resistive heating elements inside.
...seems like I'm not getting sth ;(
The claim in the paper is that the background-- that is, the inner core, is brighter than the heating elements and the dark bands in the image represent the _shadows_ of the heating elements. This is used to bolster the claim that the reaction is hotter than the elements. But a careful analysis of the image, as I've attempted, shows exactly the opposite, I believe. The image isn't enhanced at all beyond extracting the channel and enlarging by a factor of 2. But I have other more enhanced versions of other channels where I think I can see the actual coils of the wire elements glowing... but I'm not as sure about those as I am about the one I already posted.

There are clamp-on meters that use Hall sensors to read DC current as well as AC, but they are expensive. The PCE830 power analyzer was connected to the circuit by three clampon "meters" according to the paper, but I don't know if these are part of the PCE830 system or what. I'll have to do some research to see if the system as used could have actually seen a DC bias in the main supply.

EDIT: Ooops, I don't know how we got onto Rossi in this thread. Sorry...
I'll post another comment in the Rossi thread now.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 22, 2013, 11:08:33 PM
EDIT: Ooops, I don't know how we got onto Rossi in this thread. Sorry...
Because Rossi looks like a fake, as with Kapanadze, but at the same time it can't be a fake, because there would be too many people involved in this fake to keep it concealed. :)

Regards

Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on May 23, 2013, 06:32:50 AM
Because Rossi looks like a fake, as with Kapanadze, but at the same time it can't be a fake, because there would be too many people involved in this fake to keep it concealed. :)

Regards

Interesting logic  ???