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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Void

Quote from: stivep on February 08, 2016, 02:27:42 AM
Keshe --"whatever" call it any name
ZeroFossilFuel has made video showing test of the device. (1 photo at very bottom)
I'm also testing it.
However mine has no name on it.
It came this way to me for test.
Wesley

I researched Keshe and the magrav thing a fair bit a while back, and frankly Keshe comes off overall as being
quite delusional. The chances of the magrav unit ever producing over unity seem to be very slim to none.

You didn't mention following the special magrav breaking in procedure that is supposed to take several weeks
before you start attaching loads of any significant wattage to the output. Not that I think it will likely make
any difference whatsoever, but you should try to get your hands on the magrav user manual if you don't have a copy,
which is supposed to outline in detail the recommended breaking in procedure, if you want to test the magrav properly.
Personally I think you probably have yourself nothing more than a ~$2000 extension cord, but maybe miracles do sometimes happen. :)
Good luck with the testing.

P.S. Wesley, you need to keep the picture attachment width 1024 pixels or less, otherwise it messes up the page width
when viewing the thread.  :)



TinselKoala

Wesley.... congratulations on being the second person ever, that I know of, to have used  a proper wideband power analyzer to test a device on this forum. (the first was me, of course.) Even though your C-H 255 analyzers are old and obsolete, they are still better than nothing, or better than DMMs, when used properly.

However... I cannot help but notice that the "output" C-H analyzer has its "input overload" indicator lit up. The unit will not give accurate results in this case.

And also, it may not be correct to use two separate units, since they may not be precisely calibrated together. It would perhaps be more appropriate to use a single analyzer and compare its readings when connected to input, then to output.

stivep

Quote from: Void on February 08, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
I researched Keshe and the magrav thing a fair bit a while back, and frankly Keshe comes off overall as being
quite delusional. The chances of the magrav unit ever producing over unity seem to be very slim to none.

You didn't mention following the special magrav breaking in procedure that is supposed to take several weeks
before you start attaching loads of any significant wattage to the output. Not that I think it will likely make
any difference whatsoever, but you should try to get your hands on the magrav user manual if you don't have a copy,
which is supposed to outline in detail the recommended breaking in procedure, if you want to test the magrav properly.
Personally I think you probably have yourself nothing more than a ~$2000 extension cord, but maybe miracles do sometimes happen. :)
Good luck with the testing.

P.S. Wesley, you need to keep the picture attachment width 1024 pixels or less, otherwise it messes up the page width
when viewing the thread.  :)


I do not have manual. If you have one than publish it please.
I did  have made first round of testing already.
Some of the results are published in out  on Lab Grade


Model 255  digital V/A/W/Pf meter.
The difference between Swedish testing:
1. They used electronic random  out of shelf  chinese  garbage.
2. They do not seem to have suitable knowledge
3. It is not important how old  is your reference or measuring device, the important is that is or can be traceable to the bureau.
Most of general public equipment  is just toys for crowd to play with.

The device  was delivered to me free of charge.
Just for testing
I got OK to take it apart and see what is inside.
I need to obtain OK to publish inside of the device.
As the device come to me with no manual  no contract and no signs  that it is in did Keshe device I assume I have no responsibility  of any kind.
The device of Swedish guys- has had clear  marking that  belongs to Keshe Foundation.


there is also interesting story about origin  of the device.
One thing I can say  is that Keshe is NOT an Inventor nor originator of that  particular device.
He must of be in contact with the original guy and he made deal.


I do not have authorisation to be more specific as of yet .
But As I know the history  secrets of today fly out  often very soon.
the device is not of european origin or to be more specific ,concept is not.


Wesley



Void

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 08, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Wesley.... congratulations on being the second person ever, that I know of, to have used  a proper wideband power analyzer to test a device on this forum. (the first was me, of course.) Even though your C-H 255 analyzers are old and obsolete, they are still better than nothing, or better than DMMs, when used properly.
However... I cannot help but notice that the "output" C-H analyzer has its "input overload" indicator lit up. The unit will not give accurate results in this case.
And also, it may not be correct to use two separate units, since they may not be precisely calibrated together. It would perhaps be more appropriate to use a single analyzer and compare its readings when connected to input, then to output.

I noticed that overload light as well.
I guess the 'Power x 10' scale means you should multiply the meter reading by 10?
Yes, the two different power meters should ideally be connected one at a time to the exact same load
to compare the readings between the two for the exact same load, to see how closely calibrated they are.

Void

Quote from: stivep on February 08, 2016, 07:41:57 PM

I do not have manual. If you have one than publish it please.
I did  have made first round of testing already.
Some of the results are published in out  on Lab Grade

Model 255  digital V/A/W/Pf meter.
The difference between Swedish testing:
1. They used electronic random  out of shelf  chinese  garbage.
2. They do not seem to have suitable knowledge
3. It is not important how old  is your reference or measuring device, the important is that is or can be traceable to the bureau.
Most of general public equipment  is just toys for crowd to play with.

The device  was delivered to me free of charge.
Just for testing
I got OK to take it apart and see what is inside.
I need to obtain OK to publish inside of the device.
As the device come to me with no manual  no contract and no signs  that it is in did Keshe device I assume I have no responsibility  of any kind.
The device of Swedish guys- has had clear  marking that  belongs to Keshe Foundation.


there is also interesting story about origin  of the device.
One thing I can say  is that Keshe is NOT an Inventor nor originator of that  particular device.
He must of be in contact with the original guy and he made deal.

I do not have authorisation to be more specific as of yet .
But As I know the history  secrets of today fly out  often very soon.
the device is not of european origin or to be more specific ,concept is not.

Wesley

Hi Wesley. It's nice to see someone putting a magrav unit through some proper power measurement testing.
That Swedish guy appears to have no idea what he is doing, as I couldn't make heads or tails out of his video. :)

Apparently some of the early magrav units that were shipped were recalled due to there supposedly being some sort
of manufacturing flaw in them, although I don't know what the specific reason was that they were recalled.

I don't have a copy of the magrav user manual, but I took screen shots from a Keshe video which shows the magrav
conditioning step by step procedure taken from the user manual (from a Keshe video from a few months ago).
The screen shot images in the attached PDF file have overlap in them from screen shot to screen shot, as you will notice.
There are 6 steps listed, as well as some notes. For every step, they stated that if you don't follow that step exactly
you will void the warranty. If you have a used magrav unit, if the proper conditioning procedure was not followed the
implication is that the unit may well not work, but it really seems that they were just making excuses. Keshe's comments on
the conditioning procedure seemed to change from video to video, and even Keshe's own followers seemed very confused
by Keshe's vague and constantly changing statements from video to video. Maybe you can get someone to send you the
magrav user manual, if someone has a copy of it.

I wouldn't worry about telling about what's inside the magrav unit, as all the details were already released in Keshe's videos and
on his website for quite a while now. It is just some specially corroded copper wire formed into various coils that are configured a certain
way. Keshe calls this corrosion procedure/treatment of the copper wire 'nano-coating', and claims it has very special properties.

P.S. See below. TK posted a link to the current Magrav user manual.