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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

TESLA'S BIG MISTAKE?

Or rather our mistake?

I borrowed the below drawing - also to see on PAGE 5 of this thread - and modified it a bit.

What do you think? The left hand side generates high voltage at 100KHz in the Tesla coil. Now we assume this high voltage creates ionization and this ionization contains the energy from the medium (the cosmic rays). The direction of energy flow is always from high to low frequency. Thus the low frequency side, which resonates at 50KHz, should be able to collect that energy.

Question: Since we can't see such a double Tesla coil anywhere in the Kapanadze and Stepanov videos, could this kind of setup also work at 50Hz/100Hz with an ordinary 50Hz transformer? A three-phase transformer consists of three loosely coupled transformers. So one transformer generates high voltage (pulses) and thus ionizes the high voltage coil, whereas a second transformer coil and a capacitor forms a resonant circuit resonating at half the frequency of the high voltage. Thus the lower frequency coil could collect the energy coming from the at higher frequency ionized medium (if there is any energy in it at all).

The low frequency generator is necessary in order to convert (stimulate) the ionization into a supplementary magnetic field. And of course, the high frequency generator can be replaced by a frequency doubler circuit connected to the low frequency side.

Anyway, I think low tech experiments are more promising than experimenting with boxes full of MOSFET transistors and PLL circuits. And if this forum must indeed go in circles then why not rather big circles instead of small ones so we can start right from the beginning? ::)

NickZ

    Zeit:
   The beginning of what? The first TK device? The green box, glass box, glass box 2 (aquarium).
   
   You can't see the driver circuit. What is a driver circuit?   
   Back to the beginning, alright. 
   Start with what makes all those coil oscillate in the first place, the driver circuit(s).
   Ruslan's version of the drivers made by Oleg. (2nd pic below). Sorry for the blurry shot, but I think that you'll get the point.

   
   You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices,  maybe you should look again. First pic below.

   That Tesla double coils set up that you posted has been tried, and found to not be a free energy device.  What you put in, you get out, minus the losses. It's not an efficient system for higher wattage incandescent bulbs, either.
  But, Tesla's free energy set up is still a tightly held secret.

forest

That Tesla double coils has some sense, but it was wrongly pictured. You have to have tank circuit in transmitter part and it could and should work in low frequency, while producing high frequency. The essense is high Q. [/size]

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: NickZ on March 24, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
Start with what makes all those coil oscillate in the first place, the driver circuit(s).
Ruslan's version of the drivers made by Oleg. (2nd pic below). Sorry for the blurry shot, but I think that you'll get the point.

I can't see any driver circuits neither in Kapanadze nor in Stepanov videos nor were such electronic components available in times of Tesla and Moray. Hence why should we need them? It's completely illogical to use »high end« electronics here.
   
Quote from: NickZ on March 24, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices,  maybe you should look again. First pic below.

There is a certain similarity. But after a closer look it is different. The high voltage antenna (on the right) should actually be the output coil.

Since so far no one could replicate that Ruslan device, something must be wrong with that concept.

Let's say it this way: If one intends to build a fake device based on Tesla patents then the most convincing method would be to make it look like a special kind of a Tesla coil.

Quote from: NickZ on March 24, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
That Tesla double coils set up that you posted has been tried, and found to not be a free energy device.

Tried by whom? By Ruslan? So if that Tesla double coil above is not a free energy device then why should the Ruslan double coil be a free energy device? Remember you said: »You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices, maybe you should look again.«

Quote from: forest on March 25, 2016, 04:39:14 AM
You have to have tank circuit in transmitter part and it could and should work in low frequency, while producing high frequency.

Right. When the transmitter part is connected to a frequency doubler circuit instead of a generator, then the primary transmitter coil is connected in series with a capacitor and a resistor (Stepanov) and that setup generates not high frequency per se but high voltage spikes at twice the frequency of the output side.

Interesting! How close can we get and still have no working device?

wattsup

@stivep

Regarding that last video of TK you posted.

Tesla Coil (TC) makes HV that goes back to the primary. So you start with the classic 9vdc battery to a small pulse circuit to a small TV flyback primary coil (Tin Can Size), run that flyback HV into the TC primary via a spark gap until the real secondary can start pumping its own HV that feeds into the same TC primary spark gap (now looped). If the TC secondary can have a tap point at 33% up to bleed some output. Wonder if that would work. One TV flyback and 1 TC.

But if you take the TC HV and compress it back to usable amps. There beside the TC is that three coil thingy with the outer coil wound over it. So pass the TC HV through something like that all three in parallel and see if volts goes down and amps goes up.  All of these are going inside that Black Box. Again. Just like the tin can and the green box. Probably the first flyback coil is in there and he is doing other straight connections in the box as well so no one can see the total wiring method that would have given away too much info. hahaha

Thank you for your reponse to my previous post. Standing ovation because you went the extra mile and you now understand some things you do not understand. I have read way to many. From now on, my criteria is - no mention of the words electron and field. hahaha That just crossed off 98% so makes my life simpler these days. I have learned the best thing. How to learn. How to step away and look back. You know @wattsup 1.0, now I'm version 2.0. My 1.0 asked for a divorce and went away because I never plugged it in anymore. hahaha (just joking but ironic as well.)

Almost forgot about that pdf you posted (Andrei_Melnichenko_Inventions.pdf) I looked it over. You  know I have a big problem with so many of these Russian designs with their direct line going to load. I do not agree with the description of function and would not want to put time into it myself because I have too many other projects that provide better justification or promise. What is it with these Ruskies anyways. Direct line to load with a small inline breaker and they say it will do what? Produce overunity? I doubt it but again, who knows.

I saw your last video of that great machine. You are ions ahead in the toy department. Maybe one day I will drive to New York and visit. Or if you ever come to Montreal, you are welcome anytime.

wattsup