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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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Zoky

Hello to all...
I reading and practice all about earth battery/energy and on end i can see one think its only electrochemical cell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Volta
read about first battery :-)

If you use only Cu and Zn and put in the ground you will have some current but its realy low current. You can improve that if use electrolyte and use big catode/anode, Michael Emme create patent 495,582 about that.

I think we all need to practice more about wireless transmition energy with magnifier (Nikola Tesla) there is defintly some free energy for pick up :-).
Becouse if you create transmition tower for transmite energy you will have in same time reciver energy, and than you can use skil how to use that energy for use.

tishatang

As we read about stubblefield from the above linked chapter, we learn he is scientific and keeps on the latest stuff.  Earth batteries are in vogue and he no doubt made friends with the telegraph installers and how they searched for ground plates.  He probably learned to dowse from them although dowsing was more popular in his day than now.  Anyway, he knew how to find the locations for ground rods.  At some point I speculate he decided to look at the earth as a capacitor.  The ground rods would become plates of the earth capacitor.  As currents moved through the earth, they would strike one plate and shortly after strike the other plate.  This phase difference would set alternating voltages on the plates based on freq and the wave length of the currents.

Using the long helix inductors he would form resonant circuits with the ground plates in his quest for a better way to tap the energy.

electricme

@tishatang,

Quote from: tishatang on October 29, 2009, 01:36:21 AM
electricme
Your tip on images worked great.  Now if I could only draw.  I'm getting old and shakey.

You are more than welcome, it's easy isn't it  ;) the circuit looks great with my poor old eyes, you are a good teacher, because the way you spell it out makes it easy to understand, well so far anyway lol.

I have a tuning capacitor somewhere, here it is, just found it, I stripped a old radio down to the bare bones.
Will this do or is it too small, there is an adjustable mica capacitor as well, mabe we could use it for fine tuning.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

tishatang

@Jim
Your image of var cap did not come thru for me.  But, it's OK.  Any one will do for experiments.  Actually , they don't vary that much from radio to radio.  It mostly depends on the radio you took it from.  If it is a standard broadcast AM radio, it will be fine.  It will have higher capacity than FM or short wave radio because it tunes to a lower freq.  As you go lower in freq, the physical size of the components increases.  If you get no response on your meter, try a bigger or smaller inductor.  I don't think var air caps were invented yet in stubblefields time.  So, his only option to change freq was to vary the inductance by peeling off extra layers of the long helix coils and varying the distance between the ground plates.  Or, of course building bigger plates to bury.

@Zoky
If you download and read the chapter on Stubblefield I linked to, you will see he was doing great things before Tesla built his magnifying transmitter.  If you are interested in Tesla, you can do a search on Tesla and find many threads on this forum to join in their discussion.


tishatang

Evolution of Stubblefield EB cont'd based on speculations and observations

After experimenting for while, NS learned the best combination of inductors in combination with earth capacitors to get the best freqs.  In other words, the galvanometer would swing the furthest and his compass would detect relative strength of the current as he measured parallel and series resonant circuits.  These are also called resonant LC circuits.  L symbol for inductance and C symbol for capacitance.  Also to note that in the early days a capacitor was called a condenser.  If you are reading early patents or books a condenser is a capacitor and an intensifier is a transformer.

He came to realize that there was no power gain from a single resonant circuit by itself.  If it were a parallel LC circuit, he got volts but no amps.  If it was a series res LC circuit, he got amps but no volts.  Plus the fact to get any power at all, he had to deturne the circuits, somewhat further reducing the highest readings with no load.  There had to be a way to combine them to get volts and amps together.  He started winding the inductor coils together in a single bifilar coil.  Further experiments revealed that by using one coil of iron, he got better results.  Probably because of magnetic linking or maybe the higher resistance of iron caused a phase delay bringing it inline with the phase delay of the earth currents as they traveled from plate to plate in the ground?

We end up something like this:  As I look at the drawing I think the iron wire should go to the parallel circuit because the higher volts go through the higher resistance and there is little current to carry.  The series circuit needs the bigger copper wire to carry the current.