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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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electricme

@cosmicfarmer,

Quote from: Cosmicfarmer on October 27, 2009, 01:27:57 PM
I like Bill's idea with the caps. Trying to do 6v so I'll use 3, the only 3 that I have! Bwahaha! Brilliant! So, to charge them best, use fast switching diodes and use ground to cap? or should I have something else along side it, like a LED? 

I apologize for being so dumb. Last time I tried this I did an AV plug to LED and touched the AV plug to a copper pipe in the ground and the led turned on. Very dim.... had to be night time and you staring at the filament...

Also, how should I tune my earth battery? have a volt meter with me and raise or lower the poles?

That blown fuse trick sounds REALLY COOL.... Theres gotta be a standard good way for an idiot to tune a ground battery and something like that blowing up of a fuse when your in range sounds like a good example! However I am not currently using an active component with the ground.

I'm trying to find the magnetic angle of where I live, or if any lines are nearby.

Thanks!

yes, I was sitting here thinking how would stubblefield know when he had his research coils in tune working, since he was on his own, I came up with two possibilities.
First was to put a light globe in the circuit, it would light up, but if a coil worked tooooooo well, the bulb would blow, a wast.
Second was, what could he have used to save a bulb? easy, a single strand of wire, either end twisted around 2 ends.
So the fuse came out on top, cheep and easy to do, no problems to replace a blown bit of wire, cool.

About being dumb, no, you aint dumb, just dont know stuff you would know tomorrow, except you wish you knew it today he he.

Magnetic angle, best person I know who does know about these things is Bill (Pirate), PM him, he is on the money with it.

I went outside about an hour ago and dragged out my biggish through bolts, found their corresponding nuts and washers, and cleaned up my work bench, gosh, supprising how "good stuff" takes up bench space, anyone eles have that trouble here or is it only me.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

tishatang

electricme
Thanks for the tip on taking photo of drawing.  Never thought of that and it's doable for me.
Sometimes we have to look at things sideways.  What's happening may not be what is obvious.  One problem is our mind is designed to make things complicated.  Life was simple in the days of stubblefield.

Here are some important related links that are chapters from book called "lost science" by vassilatos.  A copy of this book is very expensive.  I hear it is being reprinted again?  Download and save these two chapters.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/nathan-s.htm

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/grradio.htm

Sorry if these have been posted before.  I am concerned about documenting valuable research as things have a habit of disappearing.  I feel people are taking youtube for granted that it will always be there to save your experiments.  I am in China now and cannot access youtube.  I suggest backing up important videos into your own computer.  If China can turn off youtube, it can happen where you live.  My connection is too slow to try and go around the China Firewall using special programs that cost money.

I don't know if it is just my computer, but this site format has changed in the last few days.  No longer does it list posts by line item and date.  I have to hit show unread posts which is incomplete and does not show all history of posts.

I am going to give you another thing to think about.  Stubblefield's EB may also be an orgone accumulator.  This was invented by Wilhelm Reich.  It consists of box whose sides are composed of alternating layers of metal and natural insulation.  The EB consists of layers of metal coils and layers of cotton or silk? insulation.  Orgone seems to have the ability to tap into the energy of implosion (negative electricity) instead of explosion energy which produces heat and losses.  NS was before Reich.  Orgone is a word invented by Reich.  Here is pdf attachment of orgone accumulator to show layering.



It is thought by some that the Joe Cell used on cars accumulates orgone which charges the nearby aether field to accomplish this transfer of energy.  Once charged, a car with a Joe Cell can run with no fuel.  The engine runs cold and uses no fuel, probably on implosion of the water vapor ala Keely.
Orgone gives off a light blue color and may explain why the fields around stubblefields house seemed to glow and give off light.  I will also help explain the heating apparatus in his house where he died.
Modern researchers have built devices to generate orgone energy using fibreglass resin and powdered metal.  They call such a mixture organite.  As an experiment, you could insulate the coils in an EB with fibreglass resin instead of silk or cottan as in stubblefields day.

tishatang

electricme

@tishatang,

I want to thank you for the web addresses you posted, I have been to them, as with Nathan Stubblefield, he was a man beyond his time, because of this people regarded him as someone to be avoided, except for those who shared his views.

It would be interresting if "other" lost Nathan Stubblefield papers were to be discovered, even photographs.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

tishatang

It has been good for me to go back and review these chapters on stubblefield.  It has been a few years.  I am looking at him with fresh eyes and I think speculate on what is happening with his EB.  Look to my later posts. 

Meanwhile here is the Snow patent for EB to increase voltage as an attachment.  This was one of many references at the end of the chapter.  To verify that it works, you can take apart an old car engine starter motor for its brushes.  Or maybe the local parts store stocks brushes.  For sure a motor rebuilder will have brushes cheap.  Get the biggest ones you can find.  Usually, they are not expensive.  They are carbon and already have braided copper wire leads attached to them.  Two brushes along with two small metal rods will see if the voltage doubles?  These small brushes are just to verify the patent.  To get the current to light leds will probably take bigger carbon and metal rods.

tishatang

electricme
Your tip on images worked great.  Now if I could only draw.  I'm getting old and shakey.

I will try and explain things as we go because I am going to speculate on the evolution of the Stubblefield EB.  You will have to understand these basic concepts so that when we get to the final stage, you will know what's going on.  Here we have the two basic resonant circuits.  One parallel and one series connected.  In addition they are tunable because of the variable air capacitor.  You can buy on ebay nice ones occasionally that have a gear reduction knob for tuning.  This gives finer control.

Things to keep in mind:  Voltage and current are 180 degrees out of phase in resonant circuits.
When the voltage hits maximum, the current goes to zero in the parallel mode.  When the amps goes max the voltage is min in the series mode.  This is why there is no power amplification.  As voltage goes up the amps go lower.

In parallel mode, you will have to place the light bulb between the parallel circuit and the antennae.  You do not want to place your load inside the circuit because the resistance will affect the Q.  Remember the higher the Q, the higher the voltage.  When at resonance, the bulb will not light because there is no current flow.  We will have to detune the circuit to get some current to light the bulb.  This is assuming the power is available without overloading the resonant circuit.  A parallel resonant circuit is also referred to as a tank circuit.

In series mode, the bulb is also placed next to the antennae in series with everything else.  At resonance, the bulb will not light, because even though we have plenty of current flowing, we have no voltage.  Again, we have to detune slightly to get enough voltage to light the bulb.  This assumes the circuit is not overloaded by the bulb to kill resonance.

In series mode, we have to place a safety resistor and fuse to limit current from surges and runaway conditions.  The resistor should not be necessary in the parallel circuit because at resonance, the resistance of the circuit in infinite and no current can flow.  A resistor and fuse could be placed here
in a parallel circuit as a safety in case a component failed.  Use a carbon resistor either fixed or variable.  A variable resistor here might be useful for tuning in either mode.