Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[electricme]

@ Cosmicfarmer,

Bill and Jeanna know the most of fuji stuff from the Joule Thief forum.

If you delve into the beginning areas of that forum, its where this work was done.

Regarding the output power, the Fuji crt packs a wallop, so be careful what you touch, that said, put the output through a hi/lo turns transformer, rectify for DC and feed them pulses into the nicad.

As Bill says, be careful or you might fry the nicad.
I blown a few nicads up, bits of the inturnals fly apart with hyper speed and they sure made my ears ring       when it happened, dont expect to answer the phone cause you wont hear anything 

jim

[tishatang]

@Electrime
Your drawing is half right.  Wished I knew about these drawing programs.  Getting too old to learn.  Anyway, in place of the fixed capacitor replace it with the inductor.  The inductor and the variable capacitor are in parallel between the aerial and ground.  The leads of the voltmeter are connected to the aerial and the ground rod.  You show it in series as if it were an amp meter.  The meter connections are correct if you were measuring amps with an amp meter using a series resonant circuit.  To make it series, connect the inductor to the ground rod, the other end to the var cap then to the amp meter then to the aerial.  If you are not using an aerial, then replace the aerial with the other rod in the ground.  Place a load like an led in series, and if we are lucky, it will light when we will hit a resonant freq as we slowly scan the freq band.   We change our freq band by making bigger or smaller inductors.  This is because variable air caps are limited in their range.  You could put another cap in series with the variable cap to change freq bands, but this complicates the basic simple circuit.  It is earsier to change the inductor size.  In radio, they use multi-tapped inductors to switch bands.

I am suspecting that the earth battery of stubblefield is acting as an active plate of a capacitor.  This is because in photos he is using very  long helix wound cables.  They do not have to be that long with so many turns.  The average person will think this is done for flexibility like a spiral corded telephone receiver to the base.  Try to picture his EB as a capacitor.  It is an active plate and the nearby ground rod is the other plate of the capacitor. His EB side is unbalancing the earth currents compared the the nearby ground plate of the earth capacitor.  The long  helix high Q inductor is connected to the EB and the nearby ground plate.  This is now a parallel resonant circuit.  Through trial and error, Stubblefield found a resonant freq to tap power from the earth.  He made the inductor long enough to be close to the resonant freq generated by the capacitance of the EB.  He fine tuned it by unwinding extra coils of the long helix inductor.  This is all speculation on my part by reasonable by observation of the photos.  Most have looked at his EB as an inductor/transformer.  But all componants have a capacitor part to them.  The whole EB can be looked at as part inductor and part capacitor.  I think the capacitor part has been ignored.  But the capacitor part makes sense if it is part of a resonant circuit.  The long inductor helix cable can form either a parallel or series resonant circuit depending on how it is connected to the capacitor part of the EB.

Stubblefield I believe used more than one ground rod?  Been a long time since I read about him.  Maybe between the EB and one ground rod the inductor helix cable was connected parallel to raise voltage, and between the EB and another ground rod the helix cable was connected in series to raise amps.  Maybe his secret was to connect them together somehow to generate his power?  Maybe one way to connect them together is with a bilar inductor as I mentioned in my last post.  To do this you need at least three ground rods.  Maybe one can be a common ground instead of two sets of two?

If we have existing ground rods with one volt and .oo2 amps available.  Then with a Q of 50, we have available 50 volts and .100 amps or 5 watts of power if we can combine the two setups.  We should be able to light a lot of led's with this 24/7.

The only instruments available to stubblefield in his day would be a compass and a galvanometer.  These would give him a sense of relative power.  As he experimented he would find the best combination of coil length to capacitor value to obtain the resonant freq of the earth currents.  A tuned resonant circuit only lets that freq in and amplifies it.  We have the advantage of freq counters and scopes.  From the observed data logging of this thread, we can design our components to end up with the best  freqs to extract power.

[electricme]

@tishatang,

I hear you, no problems, getting to learn a CAD program is a big ask.
What I do is grab a sheet of paper, draw the circuit (or cartoon) then take my mobile phone and photograph it.
I plug the phone into the USB port, via its cable, use the phone program to save it to the PC.
I save the image to my hard drive, called mob ph photos, I go and look in the directory, check it out first before adding it as an attatchment when I click on the Browse button and select the jpg I want to post.

This I find is the easiest way to do things here.

I do know how to use a CAD program called TinyCAD which is a freebie, buut it takes me a fair while to use and the drawing over fills the screen, so I use a pencil and paper instead.

In regards to your post about inductors, I went and took a looksee at the web site address you posted, and saw my mistake, never mind it got me to thinking and I agree with you.

If there is energy flowing through the earth at say 7 cycles per second, then we need to setup a circuit that can sence each cycle and at the top of the cycle, hook into this energy as it passes the machinery designed to pick it up.

Your mention of coils in the whole setup, leading from each electrical point I had missed, you are right, the whole stubblefield setups are all interconnected this way, so it looks like I need to go and do a big rethink on all his stuff.

jim 

[Cosmicfarmer]

I like Bill's idea with the caps. Trying to do 6v so I'll use 3, the only 3 that I have! Bwahaha! Brilliant! So, to charge them best, use fast switching diodes and use ground to cap? or should I have something else along side it, like a LED? 

I apologize for being so dumb. Last time I tried this I did an AV plug to LED and touched the AV plug to a copper pipe in the ground and the led turned on. Very dim.... had to be night time and you staring at the filament...

Also, how should I tune my earth battery? have a volt meter with me and raise or lower the poles?

That blown fuse trick sounds REALLY COOL.... Theres gotta be a standard good way for an idiot to tune a ground battery and something like that blowing up of a fuse when your in range sounds like a good example! However I am not currently using an active component with the ground.

I'm trying to find the magnetic angle of where I live, or if any lines are nearby.

Thanks!

[Pirate88179]

Cosmicfarmer:

Here is a link to figure out your magnetic alignments for your area:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/IGRFWMM.jsp

(Just in case you didn't have it already)  Just type in your zip code and it is easy.

Also, no one here was more dumb (ignorant) than me when I was starting out on this forum so don't apologize.  We are all in this together.

Bill