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Time Traveler Sightings

Started by onthecuttingedge2005, July 15, 2009, 02:01:01 AM

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onthecuttingedge2005

here is a question.

If a time traveler goes back in time he/she resets past events, meaning that when they go back all the atrocities that ever happened are reset, those people of wars and crime victims are forced through relativity to relive all the horrors of their tragic moment.

think about it. if a time traveler goes back thousands of times that means all those tragedies will also occur all over again thousands of times. and you wouldn't know that was occuring, you would just think you were living your relative life and the current date and time is blah blah blah.

is this moral?

Jerry

the_big_m_in_ok

author=onthecuttingedge said:
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... If a time traveler goes back in time he/she resets past events, meaning that when they go back all the atrocities that ever happened are reset ...
Can you be more specific about the word "reset"?  I read a fairly simple explanation years ago(that I forgot the details to) whereby logic and things like conservation of energy and physics need to be considered before anything like this happens.

Please give an example of "reset"?

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on July 17, 2009, 11:54:11 PM
author=onthecuttingedge said:Can you be more specific about the word "reset"?  I read a fairly simple explanation years ago(that I forgot the details to) whereby logic and things like conservation of energy and physics need to be considered before anything like this happens.

Please give an example of "reset"?

--Lee

Hi Mag.

to give an example.

lets say you built a time machine and went back to visit your great grandpa 100 years ago that was already dead, and now that you've visited your grandfather and are ready to go back to the future. at the time of your departure your Great grandpa was alive once more(the dead came back to life) and now that your grandpa's relativity in time has been reset he will have to die once again, so technically speaking you can go back in time and raise the dead because you are resetting relativity for everyone in that time period and in between that time period.

all though going back into time to visit a great grandpa would be nice, there are others in the world who are being murdered and tortured at those current times and in between those times.

so long as there is a time traveler flowing to time periods there will always be a resetting of each individuals relative time period for which they have to experience all over again.

when the dead rise again and then die again, all over again.
Jerry

Cloxxki

Only for the traveler the dead die again. For the living themselves, they end up dieing differently, or earlier or later at most. All of future time will be changed subsequently. Going back to the future may present you with a world you don't remember. For this reason it's important to not need a receiving device in the traveler's home world and time, as there's little chance it to "still" be there after even a short journey.
I think time is pretty one-directional though. Like a fountain. You can't ever turn it back and let particles be reset as they were.

the_big_m_in_ok

onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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to give an example. ... lets say you built a time machine and went back to visit your great grandpa 100 years ago that was already dead,
The standard paradox I was thinking of was:  Killing your grandfather before he naturally died;  1) Either you wouldn't exist on the spot, or, 2) by the 'string universe(correct assumption?) theory', if you went back to where you were, everything would have been changed beyond recognition.

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and now that you've visited your grandfather and are ready to go back to the future.
You said above he was already dead---but I'll comment further below.

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at the time of your departure your Great grandpa was alive once more(the dead came back to life) and now that your grandpa's relativity in time has been reset
Interesting concept.  But, how exactly is this done?

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he will have to die once again, so technically speaking you can go back in time and raise the dead because you are resetting relativity for everyone in that time period and in between that time period.
See comment immediately above.



Time to leave this computer.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.