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Time Traveler Sightings

Started by onthecuttingedge2005, July 15, 2009, 02:01:01 AM

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EELRIJUE

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 17, 2009, 08:37:10 PM
here is a question.

If a time traveler goes back in time he/she resets past events, meaning that when they go back all the atrocities that ever happened are reset, those people of wars and crime victims are forced through relativity to relive all the horrors of their tragic moment.

think about it. if a time traveler goes back thousands of times that means all those tragedies will also occur all over again thousands of times. and you wouldn't know that was occuring, you would just think you were living your relative life and the current date and time is blah blah blah.

is this moral?

Jerry

A time traveller will see all atrocities that were committed...but he/she will not reset them by going back in time. Only by intervention can someone change the past and therefore the future. Obviously. They have to be cleanly and directly involved in changing the route of humanity.
It would be a violation of all that we have learned up this point, if those atrocities were removed. Humankind would be feverish right now to commit all of them, if they were erased in the past.

Through experience, human kind has undone the 'habits' of the past.

BUT, a moment in time where great destruction was the result of human ignorance, would therefore give way for someone to repair the timeline. Perhaps a war or something else, which would occur and kill millions, if not billions of innocent lives and also a major threat to all life on earth afterwards etc etc.
This Time Traveller...WOULD have the authority to go back and change things, or to have prior knowledge of the event in order to stop it.

onthecuttingedge2005

But the time traveler is only here to serve examples. a time when all things are known in the future. you can't find a better answer than that.

anyone with all that knowledge will want to come back and share it.

but the world is to dangerous at the moment and it will take some time before things calm down. he/she/it will come when he/she/it/they feel like it.

but they will come. I have faith.
Jerry :)

EELRIJUE

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 18, 2009, 09:57:52 PM
But the time traveler is only here to serve examples. a time when all things are known in the future. you can't find a better answer than that.

anyone with all that knowledge will want to come back and share it.

but the world is to dangerous at the moment and it will take some time before things calm down. he/she/it will come when he/she/it/they feel like it.

but they will come. I have faith.
Jerry :)

not necessarily to reveal all things or to give high knowledge back to us.....at least all of us and 'right away'....

All things have a price in this universe. This must be the Law, for you can not give a child the keys to the Royals Royce.

Sacrifice will lead to greater wisdom and we can not expect to be given high knowledge without paying for it some form or manner.

Paying for it through how we accord ourselves to the Law as proclaimed from Moses, for instance. Or how we have contributed to human kinds development and we have addressed the ancients of Atlantis and likewise.

Going to church and reading the bible....not enough, at least from Point Of View. People have to want to see higher truths very badly and try and find them to benefit the ALL. Those people will be given privvy to the  higher realms over everyone else.

People who seek the truth about the laws of creation...will be given eternal life...no doubt. And not the laws that mankind has done so far, but the laws with which the pyramid builders had known. Which were far more advanced than the current world's understandings.....

And to answer a question regarding energy....this universe is a sea of energy. For past time travel, we can step out of the time machine and walk around as we do now, because the energy of the universe was probably no different a 1000 years ago than what it is today. Zero Point Energy would allow for us to walk about in the past outside of the time machine...because all the energy was there, as it is here and now. Nothing created. The energy is always available.




the_big_m_in_ok

EELRIJUE said:

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Perhaps a war or something else, which would occur and kill millions, if not billions of innocent lives and also a major threat to all life on earth afterwards etc etc.
This Time Traveller...WOULD have the authority to go back and change things, or to have prior knowledge of the event in order to stop it.

Well, okay.  I see you point.  Jean Dixon said the same thing about her predictions:

"If you see someone about to walk into a manhole, would you try to warn them if you had the chance?"
--paraphrased from a TV interview about 35+ years ago

The same sort of scenario for you assertion about the past, right?  Why let them die if you can try  and stop it?

Robert Heinlein, in at least one of his novels("Revolt in 2100", I believe), implied the same thing.  Going back to, essentially, give a despicable man's father a contraceptive so this man wouldn't be born, did no good.  The same result occurred:  WWIII.
(The despicable man's character is a very good fit for Osama bin Laden.  Really.  I read the book.)

My question is:
Who plays God, beside God?  Who else has the right---and who will also take karmic responsibility for the decision?

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

EELRIJUE

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on July 19, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
EELRIJUE said:

Well, okay.  I see you point.  Jean Dixon said the same thing about her predictions:

"If you see someone about to walk into a manhole, would you try to warn them if you had the chance?"
--paraphrased from a TV interview about 35+ years ago

The same sort of scenario for you assertion about the past, right?  Why let them die if you can try  and stop it?

Robert Heinlein, in at least one of his novels("Revolt in 2100", I believe), implied the same thing.  Going back to, essentially, give a despicable man's father a contraceptive so this man wouldn't be born, did no good.  The same result occurred:  WWIII.
(The despicable man's character is a very good fit for Osama bin Laden.  Really.  I read the book.)

My question is:
Who plays God, beside God?  Who else has the right---and who will also take karmic responsibility for the decision?

--Lee

Someone with much much HIGHER authority than any of us...and obviously someone who is God-Like and has crossed the universe in advanced craft. And not necessarily untrue...but actually quite real.

That person would have authority over any of us. Ants in comparison to this person.
This person would have knowledge which surpasses all knowledge. They would have experience beyond in order to make such decisions.

Thankfully this person is not here...now on this earth with us, otherwise we would all be in big trouble....because of what is happening on our world right now...wars...greed....killing etc.

This person would have little toleration for any of us and our ways.

Enter the Angel......