I think I have passed the pendulum test

[broli]

There are certain people here who will tell you have done a million things wrong and never be satisfied. Others will believe you have done nothing wrong. But the point is to share your findings and ideas. Basically you're teasing people and trying to use them for your self interests. I don't quite see the point if you are not willing to share or open source your invention. I may not understand corporate crap but you don't understand what this forum and the general FE cause is about.

[TinselKoala]

Well, regardless of the political issues, I see a problem with those side rails--the anti-rotation rails.

The device clearly must push against the rails to see their effect--otherwise they would not be needed, after all--so it must be shown that the interaction between the rails and the device cannot be the cause of the displacement thrust.
This might be hard to do. First I would try rollers or bearings, to minimize the friction with the rails, so that the anti-torque effect could be separated from any friction thrust in the direction of the displacement.
But it really would be better if there aren't any rails. Can a counterrotating "twin" be made that would still push in the same direction? Then the two paired devices could cancel each other's torque and the rails would not be needed.

[currenthopper]

Yes a counter rotating mate would be the answer and eliminate the need for rails. I'm working on it.

However,
There is no bouncing on the rails. The device holds to the wall of the rail and slides forward. So I believe the rail is simply stopping the rotation.

C.

Further study is needed.

[currenthopper]

On further study,
I see the device slowly moves along the rail. It doesn't bounce or vibrate forward. I can even hold the forward corner of the device just enough to stop the rotation and it pulls to the right like when in the trak. This shows me that by holding only one corner just to stop the counter rotation it still gives a thrust in one direction.

C.

[mondrasek]

Can a counterrotating "twin" be made that would still push in the same direction? Then the two paired devices could cancel each other's torque and the rails would not be needed.

Or, if it would be quicker and/or cheaper, could a powered gyroscope (simple electric motor powered flywheel) be added to the device and have the same torque cancelling effect?

I believe touching the device in any way influences this system such that you cannot claim to have successfuly passed the pendulum test.  Any contact will cause a force.  That force can be translated into sideways deflection of the pendulum.

I guess an alternative way to look at it would be to measure how much force is acting on the system at the contact point(s) of the device and rails.  If that force was measured, it might be equal to the force necessary to hold the pendulum off center by the amount you are witnessing.  And since measurement and calculations methods are always questioned, it is best to eliminate the need for the rails by some method.

M.