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Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

Started by shimondoodkin, July 24, 2009, 11:33:44 PM

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baroutologos

If i may speak, though foreigner to such a thread and not wanting to make a fuss, from my so far experimentation, i have personally concluded, that in transformers inductive action, its not about an action (a magnetic flux) that creates a re-action (from a coil) hence enforcing the lenz's law, rather than Primary's flux is "consumed" from receiving coils, thus system no matter how smart designed is always underunity.

Or to put another way, magnetic flux can be considered as energy. (something distant but like electricity) If it is "consumed" on pick coils, then flux is removed from system or energy.

My proof
.....

I have extensive experience with Perepiteia setup. This demonstrates the fact beutifully.
Also in other setups. Take a Tesla coil. Put a receiving coil and short circuit it. The only energy withdrawn from the system is that caused from resistance of the current that flows from the shorted coil. (unoticeable)

If you put a load, even though restricts the "Lenz's law opposing current", you have an obvious decrease in Tesla's coil performance (due to load)
For my its not about flux cancelation rather flux consumption.
That's my view.

Conclusions are yours.

majkl


te2000

Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on December 06, 2010, 07:17:15 PM
LOL a proof ? If in his video, if he load heavly the two secondaries and the power factor does'nt change in the primary, this is a good proof no ? In a conventional trafo if you load secondary the PF of the primary tend to one. I saw in his video the PF doesn't change loaded or not, so the primary stay reactive in all situation loaded or not...
Hi All,
My name is Teo and I have graduated Electrical Engineering, but did not practice since 15-20 years ago. I have decided lately to focus again on this profession and update myself. I am prepared to start testing the device of Master Thanes. Yes, it is a master in my opinion after I have read its patent and all discussions of this forum so far.
Before starting to learn and test the device, I would like to espress an opinion beforehand and you guys please correct me if I am wrong (I am sure somewhere I am wrong in what I am going to say, but I will take your comments, keep my mouth shut and learn).   
So, here it is:
I think the issue here is about measurement standards we all use (including the energy companies).
Resistive input power maybe is almost zero as explained by Master Thanes. So, primary coil with PF zero would not consume current from the input source. But what if other kind of power is consumed? Maybe an inductive power? Maybe a capacitive power?
I think in general the resistive input power (which in our case is almost zero in the patent) is the power that makes the counter to run and our energy bill to increase, because (in general) a current occurs in the primary coil. M Thanes arranged the invention as to not occur any or almost very low level of currents in primary coil. But if inductive or capacitive power is consumed (instead of  resistive power) I am afraid the counter does not increase and the energy bill remains zero (but this is why we all have to thank Master Thanes !!! ).     
The brilliant (genius) ideea of Master Thanes is the cancelling effect of Back Electromagnetic Force (BEMF) so as the classical transformer effect to be cancelled when a resistive load is applied in secondary coil(s). Therefore, we have a secondary circuit which a magnetic flux is passed through and this fact can be exploited if a resistive load is applied to secondary coil(s). The output power looks like a resistive one and this counts as a power that can be measured successfully by a wattmetter. In conclusion, resistive output power (whatever that may be) is higher than the input resistive power (almost zero - ok, let's accept the small resistor formed by the wire of primary coil plus the resistor represented by the source, but both added resulted a small figure), so we have over unity.
I mean, over unity measured in terms of "resistive" power.
However, what if inductive and/or capacitive power are/is not counted for?
Will we still have over unity?
The answer is: it depends on what is the reference (if resistive power is the reference, then yes, we have over unity) .     

te2000

After studying more, plus reading the forum more carefuly, plus reading the tests of Master Thane, ... the conclusion is I have to study more.
Therefore, please disregard my previous input. 

penno64

@thane,

Congratulations on the wonderful work with the Bitt and Regenerative coils.

I would like to replicate your generator, but I am have a hard time understanding the diff between
your two coil types and their placement within the generator.

Any advice, greatly appreciated.

Regards, Penno