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Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

Started by shimondoodkin, July 24, 2009, 11:33:44 PM

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SchubertReijiMaigo

Hello everyone, I post my old version ("Reacto-Converter" for Reactive Energy Converter) that I have thinked one year ago but never released, it consist of three identicals toroids (Nanoperm) with one input and two output, detail and operation in pics below:

Jack Noskills

I dont think this three toroid version would work if my understanding of flux is correct. I modded the picture to show how the flux goes in toroids.

SchubertReijiMaigo

I think your flux distribution is correct if you don't saturate the two bottom toroid, but remember I heavily saturate the two bottom and by this fact reducing the permeability substantially, is here the Heins effect enter in action, when you put load equally distributed in the two secondaries, the flux will feed each other without consumming real power in the coil 1, if you load more and more the Back flux will start again to draw power in coil 1, so you have a sweet point...
In short by magnetic saturation I droop permeability and force the two secondaries work TOGETHER instead FIGHTING the primary...
Here I'm in vacation but in September I will test my version and yours of course !!!
Sorry I have not made this precision in my previous post...
And try this experiment, it's not FE but worth to try: Take a magnetic core (or any normal trafo) and wind two bobbin, but saturate moderately to draw some amp, try with 1/1 ratio, load the secondary and put a light bulb in series with the primary, when you load the secondary you should observe amps decreasing, but if you load more the amps restart to increase !!!

Jack Noskills

ok, now I see your point. But wont it take power to saturate the bottom cores in the first place ? Or is this the power that gets returned back ? Well, I dont understand this energy returning back at all, where does it return to ? Does the companys meter measure difference it sees between L and N/ground lines ?

In my simplified BTT version I do not saturate the primary core, unless the high number of turns does it somehow. The audio effect I observe is that without load there is some noise and faint light in primary side. When adding load the noise goes down, primary light is dimmed and light in secondary side lights up much brighter that light on primary side. If core is saturated, shouldn't there be lots of noise then ?