Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

[dieter]

This thread ended without to engage a (really) new world order.


What is worse than seeking OU for decades and finally fail?


To obtain OU  and then be completely ignored.


I tell you something, let us all send a letter to the nobel price commitee, inviting them to become part of a evolutional markstone for mankind of highest eminence, by giving that darn nobel price to Thane Heins. I mean, if they're not too busy with some war industry stuff. (Like, "Nobel Dynamite" Ammo...).


If you read this Thane, you have my greatest respect. You did this not for the billions of idiots on this planet, but for the couple of millions who deserve it and who would not nitpick on the wrong color, shape or smell of the holy grail.


Regards

[MileHigh]

Thane can't prove anything because he incorrectly "cherry picks" how he makes his measurements.  He only looks at differential measurements when his absolute measurements clearly show under unity.  There is nothing there at all.  If you attended a measurement session and observed a knowledgeable person make absolute input and output power measurements you would clearly and unambiguously see that there is no merit at all to his proposition.  End of story.

[dieter]

Haha, I like this "end of story". Especially when you did not make the measurements you are talking about. Besides, when the input  volts and amps are out of phase 90° and nonetheless there is a load at secondary then we don't have to discuss this. Not sure if you understand this.


Anyway, I always thought why are the bemfs working against eachother, is that part of the effect? Wouldn't it be better if the two secondaries run in the same direction? Or at least have their own core, with no opposing coil on it? So I made s quick sketch for a core that may be interesting to test, because the secondaries are allowd to circulate freely and probably even amplify eachother. But, it could also be that the opposing coils are required.


One other thing is, the shape of a BTT core should prevent the primary fwd MMF to use the secondary cores without to go trough the secondary coils, so a broad, short path is required inside the secondaries.


Regard


EDIT: oops , I just realize this might not work. As soon as there's a load, the primary will skip the sec. coils, where in the original design it can't do that.

[MileHigh]

Well, I assume that you didn't make the measurements either.  But I am quite familiar with his stuff over several years and I read a fair amount on his stuff and I was even involved in discussing one of his setups with Thane himself on one thread.  I wasn't impressed with what he had to show.  Beyond that it's been a long time and there are no motors or scooters or anything using his "regenerative acceleration" that I am aware of.

If the voltage source is 120 VAC then just a tiny phase shift away from 90 degrees that is not at all easy to see on a scope represents real power going into a load.  If the guy had legitimate technology that did something useful I would support him but it's not the case.

[dieter]

Well, this is a free country, and you may have your opinion.


I have seen several replications, with oscilloscopes and a switch to connect the load. Clearly no change in phase shift. But maybe that's just cgi  ...