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Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

Started by xenomorphlabs, July 25, 2009, 08:00:09 PM

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Peterae

Hi Yucca
Good stuff, it will be interesting to see what sort of figures you come out with for the resonance.

It's difficult for me to understand what Don says, he says match the secondary wire length to a quarter of the primary length if i have understood this correctly, and that when this is the case you shouldnt need much capacitance for tuning as they will be pretty close tuned, but then in the pictures we see large caps LOL and then with the device i am building we have 2 secondaries, 1 with a large cap and 1 without.

So the secondaries without the cap will i presume resonate at the fundamental frequency, but then what is the other secondary and primary frequency set to.

I also wonder what happens to the nautral resonance frequency of the coil that doesnt have a cap when a diode is connected to the final cap bank.


Yer the meter documents pulled the wool over my eyes, it's dam obvious really i wasn't getting a meter with regard to price DOH.

I was going to use a spark plug for my spark gap, but it looks like there maybe an internal resistor and rf noise suppression component built in these days.

Peter




MasterPlaster

@lobo
What book are the pages you sent from?
Can you please post a link to it?

Regards

Paul-R


Don's plasma ball "top hat" coil device.

In a recent entry to Chapter 3, (version: 19 August 2009) Patrick K mentions that the input device needs to have a variable frequency facility, this being adjusted to get best result.

Page 22 onwards:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

Paul-R

Yucca

Quote from: Peterae on September 03, 2009, 04:13:29 AM
Hi Yucca
Good stuff, it will be interesting to see what sort of figures you come out with for the resonance.

It's difficult for me to understand what Don says, he says match the secondary wire length to a quarter of the primary length if i have understood this correctly, and that when this is the case you shouldnt need much capacitance for tuning as they will be pretty close tuned, but then in the pictures we see large caps LOL and then with the device i am building we have 2 secondaries, 1 with a large cap and 1 without.

So the secondaries without the cap will i presume resonate at the fundamental frequency, but then what is the other secondary and primary frequency set to.

I also wonder what happens to the nautral resonance frequency of the coil that doesnt have a cap when a diode is connected to the final cap bank.


Yer the meter documents pulled the wool over my eyes, it's dam obvious really i wasn't getting a meter with regard to price DOH.

I was going to use a spark plug for my spark gap, but it looks like there maybe an internal resistor and rf noise suppression component built in these days.

Peter

Peter,

If you want to get a plug with guaranteed no resistor in it then go to some place that sells or services garden equipment with engines in like mowers, chainsaws etc. The small plugs for these engines always have no resistor. You can also get them off ebay UK or US "small engine plug". These small plugs are what smith used. I'll check back in tonight with my findings about resonance conditions.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Peterae on September 03, 2009, 04:13:29 AM
Hi Yucca
Good stuff, it will be interesting to see what sort of figures you come out with for the resonance.

It's difficult for me to understand what Don says, he says match the secondary wire length to a quarter of the primary length if i have understood this correctly, and that when this is the case you shouldnt need much capacitance for tuning as they will be pretty close tuned, but then in the pictures we see large caps LOL and then with the device i am building we have 2 secondaries, 1 with a large cap and 1 without.

So the secondaries without the cap will i presume resonate at the fundamental frequency, but then what is the other secondary and primary frequency set to.

I also wonder what happens to the nautral resonance frequency of the coil that doesnt have a cap when a diode is connected to the final cap bank.


Peter,
yeah that price was too nice to be true hehe for the LCR meter.
Glad to see you frowning about exactly that questions too ;)
Really hard to understand how 2 secondaries like that concretely
interact with each other.
I said it before, if that could be simulated it would help understand the physical processes, but unfortunately it cant (except if you are a SPICE genius). So it can be only measured.
That Hewlett Packard HV/HF devices would be nice to have :)

The diodes seem to have the function to create positive sinusoidal DC in both primary and secondary circuit
Hard to tell how they would influence the oscillation.
A comparable diode arrangement that i managed to simulate so far is looking really bizarre to say the least.

Have you considered really getting lightning arresters like Don uses?

@Yucca: Nice ideas !