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Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

Started by xenomorphlabs, July 25, 2009, 08:00:09 PM

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Yucca

Nice photo xeno, thanks, I have not seen that before.

The two unknown components, could they be 2 diodes smaller than the others or perhaps as peter says resistors?

Looking at it I think I see that the primary is wound around the pipe using HV cable in the middle of the top half of the secondary, the device is almost a 3 coil device in a way, it looks like the bottom half of the secondary is where he harvests most power hence the chunky parallel diodes on that coil segment. very interesting!

Peterae

Yucca
Indeed it does well spotted, so i guess the primary was able to move the full width of the secondary to find the sweet spot.
No wonder his stuff hasnt been replicated to date it's so easy to miss things.

I have to say with that photo i feel we stand a lot more chance getting this baby going than any of the Tpu's.


xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Peterae on August 23, 2009, 05:33:29 PM
Oh man thank you for that image what a difference a good photo makes.

Yes i see the problem identifying the 2 little grey components, they look like high value plastic molded resistors to me, i have never known small caps to be coloured grey before but i guess anything is possible.

That is also silver plated copper wire for the secondary not tinned.

The good news is now all i need to buy is 1 very high voltage high current diode as the output rectifier.

The box you have a question mark over on the output leg is an inductor.

I wonder how many of these components can still be bought i bet they turn up from time to time on ebay.

Cheers,
Peter

Yes the secondary seems like copper litz. I have bought something in a store that looks exactly like it. (It is more suited for RF signals)

The questionmark device might contain inductors (probably two of them) but since this seems to be NOT the output transformer (because too small for 30 kW) i can not
identify its function and what might be inside.
Don Smith refers to it as the feedback system on his website, however it seems not to be wired to the primary-side inverter. So maybe he talks about another feedback than to the primary ?! Something that might contribute to the secondary functionality maybe even ???

Hmm, so you also think that the two little components could be resistors, that was my first thought, but i could not explain their presence at that place in the circuit would it be resistors. Or maybe also diodes? From just the appearance they look like smaller HV caps, something like in the 3-6 kV region and few pF capacity.
The fact that Smith paralleled two diodes in the bottom part indicates that he
has already quite some amperage flowing to the caps.

Nice that you nearly have all components together. Do you also already have comparable HV caps with enough power rating?
Looking forward to seeing your set-up soon ;)

The slidable primary can be seen in the 3rd pic.

Peterae

My shopping list is changing by the second LOL i will need to get the bits yet, i have already ordered bits, but in light of tonight's info and picture i feel we could possibly do a pretty close replication, not sure about the large grey caps, i don't suppose you know there values, i am wondering if we can use microwave caps with a begging trip to the local tip. Screwdriver in hand LOL

The final inductor device, although it has 2 coils he only uses 1 of them, the final inversion circuit must be a seperate unit which is not present but plugs into the output strip board.

I was hoping to try building a lower power device using lower spec parts but now am rethinking this and thinking of going for a close replication.

I have repaired similar 12v inverters years ago, they were used to power the old camcorders via the mains ;)
Peter

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Peterae on August 23, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
My shopping list is changing by the second LOL i will need to get the bits yet, i have already ordered bits, but in light of tonight's info and picture i feel we could possibly do a pretty close replication, not sure about the large grey caps, i don't suppose you know there values, i am wondering if we can use microwave caps with a begging trip to the local tip. Screwdriver in hand LOL

The final inductor device, although it has 2 coils he only uses 1 of them, the final inversion circuit must be a seperate unit which is not present but plugs into the output strip board.

I was hoping to try building a lower power device using lower spec parts but now am rethinking this and thinking of going for a close replication.

Peter

I can only encourage you to go as close to the original as possible !
Personally i am staying away from insanely high voltages, thats why i chose to experiment more with downward conversion transformers (like Kapanadze does it)  as it makes components more affordable and the whole device less dangerous (see pic).
Tesla probably got most shocked with this type of devices than with any other hehe.
About the grey caps, i guesstimate them to be 20kV caps of 8-10 KW power rating each. Smith said they were custom made for him, very hard to get otherwise.
I think once you get the device going like intended you really need that huge caps or you´ll burn microwave caps or any comparable low power stuff.