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A Dynamic Coil System

Started by gravityblock, August 01, 2009, 10:18:37 AM

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gravityblock

Let's have Coil A to be 4 inches in length and Coil B is 4 inches in length with 4 inches of wire between the 2 coils.  Coil A will be wound CW and Coil B will be wound CCW. This will not cancel out their magnetic fields. It would be similar to connecting two batteries in series or in parallel.  Now extend the 2 coils where there is no slack in the wire that is between them.  The two coils will now be a total of 12 inches in length.  We'll place a magnet with it's north pole facing Coil A, and a magnet with it's south pole facing Coil B.  The magnetic field of each magnet will extend 8 inches each and extend a total of 16 inches.  We will place each magnet 2 inches away from the coils. There will be a total of 8 inches of movement between both magnets and both coils in this system.  This will allow the magnetic field to completely cover the coils when they are stretched out.

The two magnets will attract each other.  As the two magnets are attracting each other, they will bring the two coils together.  Also the magnets will induce a current in the coils as they move towards each other.  The end of Coil A will be induced with a North pole and the end of Coil B will be induced with a South Pole.  Once the two coils and magnets are brought together, there can no longer be a change in the magnetic flux to induce a current. 

The magnetic fields in each coil will then start to collapse once they are together.  As they are collapsing, they will induce a magnetic field on the ends of both coils that will repel the magnets and the coils back to their starting positions.  Then the process can repeat. 

Worst case scenario is the magnets and coils will not completely make it back to their starting positions.  If this process can just repeat a dozen times, it would have generated more energy than it would require to move the magnets and coils back to their full starting positions. There is no sticky spots to overcome.  BEMF is fully utilized in this system, except for maybe using two bifilar coils.  It is using both the North and South poles of the magnets.


GB

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

the_big_m_in_ok

gravityblock said:
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...We'll place a magnet with it's north pole facing Coil A, and a magnet with it's south pole facing Coil B.  The two magnets will attract each other.  As the two magnets are attracting each other, they will bring the two coils together.  ...
Once the two coils and magnets are brought together, there can no longer be a change in the magnetic flux to induce a current. ... 
As they are collapsing, they will induce a magnetic field on the ends of both coils that will repel the magnets and the coils back to their starting positions.  Then the process can repeat. 
I had already tried to describe a similar process I saw on a the 'Web awhile ago:

http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=7792.msg193780#193780 ;  my reply #54 on the page, fourth one from the top

Since the source I saw was on the Internet, the possibility of uniqueness in a moneymaking endeavor might be moot by now.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

gravityblock

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on August 01, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
gravityblock said:I had already tried to describe a similar process I saw on a the 'Web awhile ago:

http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=7792.msg193780#193780 ;  my reply #54 on the page, fourth one from the top

Since the source I saw was on the Internet, the possibility of uniqueness in a moneymaking endeavor might be moot by now.

--Lee

I've learned a lot from Broli.  His thread is an excellent example showing OU.

What I think is unique about the dynamic coil system is the magnets are always 0 - 2 inches away from the coils as the magnets are attracting, while providing 8 inches of total movement in one direction. Two inches for each magnet and 4 inches for the coils for a total of 8 inches while the coils are seeing a changing magnetic field during all 8 inches in order for a current to be induced.

I doubt this system is OU, but maybe someone can modify and build on this technique for a better system.  A system may work on paper, but don't always work in the real world.  Engineers know this all to well.  I personally believe OU is possible.  I love the challenge and the pursuit in trying to solve this mystery.  The knowledge I have gained during this pursuit is great, but yet I still know very little.


Take care,

GB

 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

the_big_m_in_ok

gravityblock said:
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...What I think is unique about the dynamic coil system is the magnets are always 0 - 2 inches away from the coils as the magnets are attracting, ...
I suppose supporting the moving coils is something that's easy to do?

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...while providing 8 inches of total movement in one direction. ...
Watch out for that.  Even a slack wire will break eventually if it's bent and flexed.  That will limit your efficiency unless you use a spring.

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...I doubt this system is OU, but maybe someone can modify and build on this technique for a better system. ...
The general, overall Bedini scheme is the same:  attraction and repulsion.

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...A system may work on paper, but don't always work in the real world.  Engineers know this all to well.
Sunlight and magnetism work like that.  OU?  Certainly.  The sun and magnets don't change in the short run.  Just utilize the energy indefinitely.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

stevensrd1

Why not use a wire that is iron based, meaning the wire itself would stick to a magnet. Then try that as your coil for say electricity generation as the magnet passes by it. Then your coil would not even need an iron insert in the middle as most coils have,,it would be its own iron insert itself.