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Started by Grumpy, August 10, 2009, 09:48:27 AM

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BEP

@Grumpy

On your 'getting to the point' question, yes, it is. It just hasn't been very productive for me yet.

My current beast can be fed with sine or pulses of almost any shape, on the continuous overwrap, and it will output a very small DC (so far about 1.2V) with single polarity hash as much as 300V.

You apply a load and the hash goes away.

The tuning of the signal has more to do with pulse width than frequency. The overwrap is bifilar opposing, basically a Rogowski coil. The return wire, for the Rogowski coil, is what most call the collector.

The difficult part is making the pulse fit within the length of that coil. 
The control coils are actually one wire to make four segments over the overwrap. The turn direction of these coils alternate.

The idea is to 'truely' simulate what goes on around a DC current wire. Not only is rotation required but also vertical direction. I liken it to a swallowing action. This is why three or more collectors should be used. With one you only have constriction and relaxation. Two, you have direction but it only alternates. Three, you can control vertical direction.

We must create all the activity found around a wire or we have nothing.

There must be charge moving the correct way. The mag field, likewise. Only then can we expect vertical current movement(see ampprobe video).

Once that happens the Rogoski coils become feed and source. After all, they are a constant voltage source.

We certainly don't want to create anything but this vertical current. If harmonics are there they must be part of the simulation in order to create the root event, only.


Grumpy

BEP

We are moving in the right direction by trying to simulate what occurs around a conductor as a means to induce current flow in the conductor.

Look at the Wilson Effect (Wilson-Wilson Effect with a rotating dielectric - not the solar effect) - replace the rotating dielectric with a rotating region of displacement current, be sure to include the static magnetic field since the rotating region will spin couple to the static magnetic field which will increase the energy of the region (I don't like the word field for this).  This is the same as coupling to the earth mag field but adjustable and more stable.  Output is same as the Wilson Experiment - plates top  and bottom.

See, just like charging a capacitor (the output plates) there is a displacement current between the plates.  Our region is constantly changing, so the plates are continuously charged so to speak.

Now, how do we create the displacement current region and rotate it?

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There may be a few of us that are lost so I offer this explanation as to what a displacement current is.  The magnetic field responds to two types of currents one is from moving charge carriers and the other from virtual particles flowing in a polidial electric field.  The sum of these two gives us the magnetic field distortion about a conductor.  If we put a compass between two charging capacitor plates it will show a current until the capacitor charging stops changing the q state of the plates. The magnetic field appears to be displaced inside the field between the capacitor plates.  This magnetic field is generated not by charge carrier movement but by the change in the polarization of the dielectric field between the plates.  The crossection of a conductor can be viewed as a capacitor plate.  As the q of the crossection changes very quickly or the termination voltage rises this displacement current precedes any electron or positron movement.
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   Interesting question Loner.  If solar coronal mass transfer coming from the sun slapping into magnetosphere causes a compression of the magnetosphere the ions in the ionosphere will now accelerate or spiral along moving field lines.  This disruption causes a change in the electric field between Earth's surface and the ionsophere.  Just one field change I can think of that would charge or discharge the Earth to atmosphere q state.
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This fits some parameters:
QuoteSince a Rogowski coil has an air core rather than an iron core, it has a low inductance and can respond to fast-changing currents. Also, because it has no iron core to saturate, it is highly linear even when subjected to large currents, such as those used in electric power transmission, welding, or pulsed power applications. A correctly formed Rogowski coil, with equally spaced windings, is largely immune to electromagnetic interference.