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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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tinu

Quote from: spoondini on September 10, 2009, 09:13:02 AM
The concept of the electricity 'siphon' has been twirling in my head for about 3 years now.  It's what brought me to this board in the first place. 

Amazing to see that someone has potentially materialized the concept, exactly when I found the overunity board.  Serendipity.

Hat's off to you Ali!

How about the concept of RC time constant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_time_constant) for a charging capacitor using a single diode, where R is the resistance of a diode in direct conduction (extremely small â€"fraction of Ohm) and C is probably several thousands micro-Farads?
How about the response of a mechanical device (power-meter) to the saw-tooth kind-of waveform when charging the said capacitor with momentarily current of maybe hundreds of amperes (current that decay very fast in comparison with the 50Hz which is the ‘reference of the meter’ by its design)  and followed by a very large pause (during which the capacitor is slowly discharged onto a load with Rload of hundreds of Ohms - much larger that that of the diode, thus the time-constant is much larger; the power-meter sees no current during this time because the way setup works)?
How about the response of an ammeter designed for sinusoidal currents when facing the same kind of signal? (For practical purposes the signal may be treated as one with extremely low duty cycle if it helps picturing it; a guesstimate figure for the duty cycle may be around 0.5-1%)

Regarding the replies following the second movie, I vote for a bulb in series with the “genie”. Or even better, a (non-electronic) ballast used in fluorescent lamps that is already built as a nice coil designed for limiting current in 50Hz and that comes in various available sizes.
Definitely the voltage is what is said to be. But current is very far from it.
Probably even a 50A rapid fuse may reveal surprises. ;)

Best regards,
Tinu

hartiberlin

Hi Ali,
I have seen your new video and it is great !

Would you like to apply for the overunity price and thus open source
your invention ?

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

P.S: I guess the device is a voltage doubler with feedback circuit simular as Robbi has posted above
at :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7987.0;attach=37705

The questions remains, how exactly the 50 Hz sine output waveform is formed...

As it seems to use only 3 big caps I wonder how the switching is done, so it is getting
a feedback and a selfrunning 50 Hz oscillator this way ?

Well, if I should fake a video, the second video still leaves the possibility for a fake,
as one could fake the 12 Volts AC to DC converter this way to just have a 220 Volts cable inside
there and no 12 Volts power supply. ( well I guess we still suffer from the Mylow "bug")

So scopeshots would be needed to see all the details and as EMdevices correctly said,
the dimmer circuit could jam the ac current measurements.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

winsonali

stefan ,
the video is very original and uncut , and there is nothing fake in it nor i want any money from any one as i mentioned previously i am burning my own fuel to reach the destination
nothing is fake i am bit silent right now coz concentrating on DC input and here is the first proper use of the genie , i will apply for the over unity price once i complete the device now i am more interested in completion of the device rather then talking....
note: pictures are modified for illustration purpose only not for any commercial purpose

hartiberlin

Hi Ali,
I wonder, why the output voltage is just 338 Volts as this
voltage is exactly the sqrt(2) value of 240 Volts AC from the UK,
(peak value the 50 Hz sine wave)
so it could also be the DC voltage from a bridge rectifier.
But ALI you say it is 50 Hz AC at the output ..
Hmm..
A Voltage multiplier would give only about 100 Volts from the 50 Hz dimmer
input you show, but how would this feedback then loop up and amplify up exactly to 338 Volts AC ?

This is puzzling me and as 338 Volts is exactly the peak value of the 240 Volts UK gridline
voltage, and I have seen a few diodes at the input circuit, I wonder,
if it is not just 338 Volts DC from the 3 caps ?

I would be pretty convinced if you would show us your
circuit powered by a 9 Volts transistor battery for 10 Minutes
running all these 3 output lamps, instead of the 12 Volts AC/DC adaptor...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum