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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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hartiberlin

If this circuit would be a fake it would work this way:

1. The 12 Volts AC/DC adaptor would be just a 240 Volts AC cable,
no transformer inside, so the power for the lamps could
be drawn through this cable.
This (hidden) input would go to a bridge rectifier which would
charge up 3 big caps to the peak value 338 Volts.

2. The claimed input cable from the dimmer circuit is
just a control voltage cable to switch a relay switch to put the
DC voltage power from the 3 caps onto the output cable.

3. What is also not shown is the  dependence of the dimmer input voltage
to the output voltage. Normally, one would show, how the output voltage would
change, if the dimmer voltage is changed a bit, but this is not shown.
Only the fixed output voltage of 338 Volts is shown...

Hmmm....

So again,
after having Mylow faked his motor I would really wish
we could see this circuit NOT powered by a (not measured) 12 Volts AC/DC converter
but from a small 9 Volts transistor battery that could not run the 3 x 60 Watts lamps for so long...

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

winsonali

stefan look at the similarities

1 in first video the voltages from line coming were 220  when i reduce it to min value of dimmer i get it down to 30 volts that become 208~210 volts why the the sq doesn't work there? in first video

2  in 2nd video the voltages from line coming  are 250 when i reduce it to min value of dimmer i get it down to 49 volts that becomes 338~341 volts

i have clearly mentioned that i need 30 volts in my circuit, if you multiply this by 7 you will get the same result 7 * 30 = 210(watch first video and look at multimeter its 208~214) and  7 * 49 = 343. the factorial in my circuit remain between 7 to 8.   

so if some thing i am playing then why these similarities i have developed some thing with proper knowledge and designing capabilities

there are no relays in the circuit,no transformers as you put 12 volts, circuit starts working and zero crossing polarity checker section of the circuit start its operation this stage must be operative before input sampling voltages from dimmer.

coz circuit is not yet in its final stage we are using external 12 volts this is simple converter i was using with my wifi router from Netgear.

well i will not blame you for your comments and considering videos as fake, you are a human   
every body has right to think in his own way
its just the matter of time with my own resources i will complete the device in proper product.

wish you best of luck

Ali

   

tinu

@ winsonali,

Hi again,

At a closer look I see the dimmer in the second movie is different from the one used in the first movie. (Well, I see the whole setup is different but apparently its parts are the same: power-meter, frequency-meter etc.)
Is it possible that during testing the genie, dimmers keep getting fried so in the second movie you felt a new&different /maybe more powerful/ dimmer shall be used?
If yes, is it possible that they fail due to excessive currents, as it results from my previous post?

Can you let us know what is the rated power of the dimmer(s) you use?
If the genie takes 150W or so and delivers in excess of 450W, can you use a dimmer rated at max 400W or less?

A DC version would be interesting but again, we’d ran into “a la Bendini” (please do not correct  ;)) issues regarding current spikes. So I suggest again introducing into the actual setup any kind of device-limiting-current series connected with “the genie”, be it a mere bulb or ballast and/or the use of a low-power rated dimmer. It would take little efforts on your side to clear the issues about the real currents the genies draws from the mains, issues that I’ve raised last evening.

Best regards,
Tinu

hartiberlin

Hi Ali,
Thanks for the additional infos.
Why is your grid line voltage 250 Vots AC ? Did the UK recently raise the voltage to this level ?
Many thanks.
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forest

Let me guess.. Charging capacitor one side to positive potential  is like creating a syphon when there is a source of electrons on the other side sucked by induction.Bouncing electrons between caps poll electrons from power grid sometimes but sometimes they can flow from ground, not necessary from power grid connection... I read about something like that called D'Arsonval current.
Does it have any sense ?