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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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hartiberlin

Many thanks Ali,
looking forward to see another video soon.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

markdansie

@Wattbuilder and Stefan
You could learn a lesson from Ali. He was kind enough to allow another member of this forum and a retired physicist to visit and test his original device. Using oscilloscopes they were able to explain to Ali where his measurements were possibly flawed because of the meters he was using and what he should use and how to test. The device was a very well built, and certainly would have tricked power meters provided by utilities. To Ali's full credit, rather than argue the point he went into building circuts to address the issues raised and I believe is making great progress. he embraced the advice and is developing solutions.
Hats of to Ali as he listened to people with the experience and qualifications to assist him. Ali himself is a brilliant man and a very original thinker with honesty and integrity.
I look forward to when he is ready to have these people visit again to confirm what he is working on now. There is no hurry and all will happen in good time.
The cost of this assistance was $0. We have also put in place that once certain criteria are met virtually unlimited funding and resources through a humanitarian organisation for Ali to continue his work.
I guess my point Mr Wattbuilder is to listen to those with the experience to help you and address concerns raised like Ali has rather than your ignorant buried in the sand approach. Help is there if you need it and can be arranged. Just arguing the point will get you now where and refusual to do tests that will either confirm or bust your theories in not the way of progress.
Once again ,hats of to Ali for his humility, generosity and honesty.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

teslaalset

@Mark
Mark you should read the charter of this forum again.
We discuss things openly here and try to get as much people involved in understanding and solving issues.
What you are attempting to do all the time is shielding off information from other forum members. Where is the information of the people you organized to visit Ali? Sorry, I can't find it.
You indicated earlier your honest intension; I am not convinced yet. You at least make the impression that you have a double agenda.
By sharing information the risk of loosing knowledge is much lower. We have seen people disappearing at very crucial moments here at the forum too often. Besides, integral knowledge of all active forum members is much higher than that of single persons.

Buy a mirror and look at it. The picture is not as pretty as you think it is.

markdansie

@teslaalset
That is a good point you raise. Like I have always said I need to be placed under scrutiny as well.
In this case and most others I leave it entirely up to the owner or the inventor of the technology to release reports conducted by my associates. It is their decision. In some cases they also need advice on ways to move forward the technology.
In many others(if not most) I have to sign an NDA. If that is the case I am not at liberty to disclose reports, test results or findings.
You criticism is valid, and I accept that.
However I often act as a person who puts people in contact with other people who can help them with no strings attached. This was the case with Ali. We also in some instances offer assistance in other ways depending on the desire of the inventor.
A lot of people come here kite flying or post video's on you tube to create interest, often seeking funds. Where I believe I do add some value to the forums is in that my experience in travelling the world and researching technologies can challenge those with purposes that are not always ethical.
For every technology you see here there are many others that never reach public forums, and wish to remain private for a variety of reasons, more often than not they do not want attention.
However I applaud your questioning of my motives and can not offer a simple answer, hopefully the above goes some way of explaining my position.
I also do not want to embarrass people who are genuine if they have made mistakes in testing or evaluating data. In many case they go away and continue with their projects. In many cases they attack the messenger.
In Ali's case he took the test data and proceeded to address the issues and has made his progress public. I applaud this and this is a demonstration of my no strings attached approach.
In other case people require funds for further research or to commercialise there intellectual property. I have always offered my services freely if that is the case.
There is an ongoing debate which is the fastest way for people to recieve benefit from new technologies. In some cases its open source in others its private equity funding. In my opinion it depends on the project.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

teslaalset

Mark, who is paying for all the kind services you offer and provide?
Would be interesting to know who else is behind all the kindness.
Business travelling is not for free as we all know.