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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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FatBird

Teslaalset said:

1) people that want to share and solve new energy solutions in the open for free,
2) people that want to earn money out of potential inventions before others do (and try to suppress open innovation)
3) people that want to cover up new energy inventions as fast as possible for economical or political reasons.

I TOTALLY AGREE, especially your NUMBER 3.

I just did a Yahoo search on DEAD SCIENTISTS, & got OVER 51 MILLION sites about it!!!  So you are right on the money!!!


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Omega_0

Quote from: winsonali on November 04, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
Omega:

please read the old posts all the answers are there if things are so simple things must have been done by everyone here. my system needs below zero voltages to generate siphon effect. a simple DC input will not work here we need alternating currents..
is a design requirement


I hope you are not that dumb. DC measurements don't mean you operate your device on DC. You missed the point of it all ?

DC power measurement means that you start with a DC power source as input, measure the DC volts and amps, convert that to AC, feed your device with that AC, generate AC power, convert that back into DC and measure DC volt and amps at the output. In this way you get the most reliable measurements. Calorimetric measurements are next step after that.

You call it "stabilizer" now , instead of power saver ? Now I highly doubt you have anything.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

allcanadian

@OmegaO
QuoteI hope you are not that dumb. DC measurements don't mean you operate your device on DC. You missed the point of it all ?
DC power measurement means that you start with a DC power source as input, measure the DC volts and amps, convert that to AC, feed your device with that AC, generate AC power, convert that back into DC and measure DC volt and amps at the output. In this way you get the most reliable measurements. Calorimetric measurements are next step after that.
You call it "stabilizer" now , instead of power saver ? Now I highly doubt you have anything.
DC has issues as well but if paralleled caps are added to smooth the DC usually you can get pretty accurate readings. I would agree that AC measurement is flawed when the signal is distorted.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

winsonali

OMEGA:
oh i got it now i never give it a second thought that we can do this

convert AC into DC

then measure there the power

convert into AC again

feed it to genie

ok thats a good way of checking
really i am dumb that its so simple and i didn't get it? ( some times things are in front of you and you can't see them)


i call it stabilizer to avoid unnecessary arguments of OV, a lot of scams are out there claiming energy saving i didn't want to be in the same line.
I prefer to start finalizing the product as voltage stabilizer so i can start manufacturing and selling it in near future we will market this product in third world countries. if some body use our line conditioner , digital stabilizer and can save electric bill without tempering the power meter i am more then happy
 
what ever the circuit i designed it has  uniqueness 

or may be you are right i didn't have anything, circuits like this are available from electronic kit shops
all those people argued to me so far have offered some thing to me in terms of learning because the ideas are backed with some knowledge i don't mind what ever you are saying i haven't done anything in last three months, oscilloscope needs money, DC measurements are cheap , if something is there i am sitting on mountain of money......

well one thing is for sure, soon i will send circuit diagram to some of the members of this forum .... who i found to be very honest and looking for humanity...like teslaalset, Fatbird, robbie...... this may help them in some of there projects

i am waiting for the links of article or paper discussing methods that can effect power meters (slowing down)
1 = In every home we are using dimmers for lights, are they fooling power meters?
2 = Power meter cannot read loads with chopped AC is it true?
3 = digital power meters are not accurate when the load is chopped AC? (every home have dimmers for fan or lights)
4 = Disc meters is an old technology can be fooled with high frequency?( all computer power supplies use high frequency)

try this at home a very simple test
use a dimmer get the power to lowest level where it glow the bulb at min.
take the power meter reading
connect in parallel a step up transformer and connect a bulb to it where it glows again with full brightness   
take the power  reading if goes slow then all your assumptions are right and if  it goes faster then think i must have developed something good...

you are thinking logically

if i have something why i am still no where? don't worry i have achieved some good mile stones...
   
thanks and regards
   
Ali



   
 

teslaalset

Maybe the most simple way to prove energy gain is to use two traditional energy meters as used in Ali's first video ( the one with the turning wheel moved by eddy currents)
One measuring the input power consumption, the other measuring the power consumed at the output (between output of the genie and the light bulbs)

At the end I, as a consumer, would be interested in my energy bill.
For now my energy bill is depending on such traditional power meter.

This basically is already shown in Ali's first video.
The only thing missing is a power factor meter at the input. This would complete the setup.