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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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Omega_0

Winsonali,

Welcome. :)
Yes, that seems to be the correct explanation of behavior of the frequency meter. May be if you use a transformer with current limiter to bring the mains voltage down (instead of a dimmer), it will show right frequency. But thats a minor matter.

Main thing is, measurements... It can happen that some transient negative spikes or high frequencies are confusing the power meter. You need to remove it for the purpose of measurements and perform actual power measurements, to prove your claim.

You seem to be expert in electronics and have more than average knowledge about it, I hope you have a very useful invention here, overunity or not doesn't matter right now.

So the question is -
What is the RMS input power and RMS output power from your device ?
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

hartiberlin

Hmm,
I would say, that if you use a phase control dimmer like Ali
used and use it to reduce the 50 Hz sine frequency to reduce the
RMS to about 30 Volts and use this as the input for his "black box",
you just can not light up the lamps normally
to get them brighter again than the 30 Volts RMS would get them.

But Ali has done it to show them as bright as if he would power
them with 220 Volts.
Also the frequency meter suggests he is using 50 Hz when he powers the bulbs
with his device.
And as he posted he seems to convert the 30 Volts RMS phase cut controled sine wave
first to DC voltage and then uses his IC circuits to produce this
higher output 220 Volts 50 Hz sine wave again.

I am really curious what kind of effect he is using for it,
if he uses any kind of phase shifter circuit and quadrature modulation circuit
or something like this ???
As there seems to be no coils involved and just only capacitors, that seems
to be a pretty intelligent circuit...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

EMdevices

Here's a page illustrating the basic operation of a watt meter.  (from google books: Newnes Electrical Pocket Book, pg 421)

Notice the voltage coil needs phase correction (since it's an inductor) and we want it to respond in phase with the voltage.   It's possible to create an output device that will mess with the phases and cause the meter to not work properly, which is what this motionless generator "invention" is doing.

EM


winsonali

i would like to explain the working of a watt meter in simple words
there are two coils
1 is voltage coil produce current lagging by 90 degree phase shifting to produce eddy current it works on ac only
2 is called current coils that is 3 turns in down coils that works as multiplier
if power factor distrubs it will give more reading and inceases electric bills that why in factories where they have induction motors they employ power factor capacitors to reduce electricity bill so producing distrubance in power factor increase meter speed rather slowing it down

if power factor is with in limits capacitor do not play any role but again cause electricity loses so an automatic powerfactor correction system is necassary to get the real power and apperant closer to get accurate billing

conclusion
A)    powerfactor dose effect meter reading but always increases the speed it never reduces the speed real power = v * I/ pf and if power factor is one meter give accurate reading
B)    if by just using a dimmer meter speed can be slow downed all enegy theives use this technique
and this is not known till yet only way to steal elec. power to cut the nuetral from meter and ground  it but now a days all  all power companies ground the meter in such a way that this effect is not working any more the only way to get enegy is by generating through any of the following means wind solar hydro...  or the new techiques we are developing


i am preparing a docuement to establish testing procedure for the device i will send it to stefan and once we are agreed with inputs from experts we will conduct testing
regards Ali



 

FatBird

Winsonali DEFINITELY has OVERUNITY on his invention.

LOOK at the VERTICAL BEAM of LIGHT.

Notice that a CCD Video Camera picks up the OverUnity Cold Electricity AETHER VORTEX Spin when Light Bulbs are powered.  Our eyes CANNOT see it in Person, BUT the Video Camera CCD CAN see it.

Notice that Floyd Sweet's VTA had the spinning vortex.  SM's TPU had it, & now Winsonali's invention also has it.

PLUS, look close at Winsonali's CLOSE UP Photo & the actual Aether Vortex SPIN can be seen.

Absolutely Amazing!!!



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