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Bedini SSG - self sustaining

Started by plengo, August 28, 2009, 08:04:34 PM

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mscoffman




Quote from: allcanadian on November 11, 2009, 06:05:52 PM
@magluvin
I cannot see your video as I am at work:) but we should not underestimate the usefulness of reed switches nor contact switches. The modern electronics person would call them obsolete but they can do things modern electronics can't. I have had reed switches biased with an external magnet in in such a way that they could switch in millisecond pulses at hundreds of volts with no sparking. If properly timed in the circuit they also acted as lossless diodes with no voltage drop and can rectify an alternating current or varied DC. If the biasing and timing are perfectly tuned you cannot actually see the reed switch move as the movement is in the thousandths of an inch, as well with the small amount of motion involved they will go completely silent. Many people have commented that they were not even aware that my rotorless bedini reed circuits were even running in a perfectly quiet room. The only major drawback is that they can become disturbed if the device is moved around, but other than that I have found them superior to any electronic circuits I have built because there a basically zero losses. Imagine a switch that can last years, is silent, has no losses-no voltage drop, has no turn on/off voltage requirements, no minimum voltages, can handle AC or DC or both simultaneously and very fast rise/fall times. As always the component is only as good as the knowledge of the person operating it and people should not judge things until they fully understand them. If you pull apart a relay and use the contacts you can space the contacts down to thousandths of an inch, next glue a 1/8" neo magnet to the movable contact on the opposite side of the contact near the end. You can use 1/16th inch brass shim stock strips and solder smaller contacts to them to extend the sensitivity of the switching. In this case the length and stiffness of the brass strip can be tuned to the motor, you can have multiple switches per pass of a magnet if the contact strip length is a harmonic of the frequency of the passing magnet/rotor speed :). I have had these types of contact switches operating as far as two feet away from a bedini motor, they can be very sensitive to any changes in the magnetic fields.
Regards
AC


@all

As I think I said previously reed relays are almost perfect substitue for switches
in overunity devices. Because of low leakage and complete isolation. Especially the
5Volt 600ohm coil reed relay with 1 amp maximum current switch current which are
a very inexpensive devices.

The bad part is;

a) there is a maximum DC current that the switch contacts can support.
b) The total transisition between conductance and non-conductance
     has a tendancy to create arcs when switching. Really excessive current
     can cause switch contacts to weld. Arc's could be consider contact
     combustion.
c) There is current dissipation when coil is activated... please
     understand "Latching Relays" (see wikipedia)
d) There is a maximum design number of switching events so 60Hz is about
    the maximum reed relays recommended.
e) Relays need a conditioning current...signal switching will not always
    will not always occur cleanly at too low current level.

Note; that opto switches also dissipate power to activate their leds.
But have more or less unlimited bandwidth. Note there are commericial
solid state relays called SSR's that work the same way...there are a large variety
of switches and opto device embedded in them. (many use SCR's and Triacs
that require control of (zero crossing) AC signal voltages to turn off.

I am interested in Plengo's tendancy to switch current at high speeds...and his circuit
can do so cleanly.

:S:MarkSCoffman


mscoffman

@Plengo

Your instruments look professonal.

I am impressed with what you are showing. I agree that ionic resonance in
the batteries may play a role in the excess energy production. I wonder if
different battery capacities have different resonant frequencies?

Any chance you can create a microcontroller based synthetic load resister (led lamp)
to dissipate excess produced energy by turning on and off (slow PWM). Note that
maximum system energy production may not occur if one waits for the batteries to
charge all the way up to maximum. I would like to see proof of eventual overunity
in this core circuit, with produced energy greater than storage battery capacity.

Magluvin will also eventually need to see how this is done.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Magluvin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320445448645&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

This is the link to the reeds I bought, I didnt think I would be able to copy it being an already sold item. But the link still works without me being logged in to my acct.
They have what seems to be very heavy leads, solder type.  Current handling is probably good, my concern will be switching times due to size, we will see. For me, at the price and quantity, its worth the shot.

I have an idea about the bemf pulses. Would you say that those are of high freq. ?  Does BEMF flow on the skin of the coils wire? Skin effect?
I have an inductor coil that I had shown on my vids. Its about 300 turns 0.9 ohms and I believe 18awg wire. What I have in mind is to recreate that coil using multiple fine wires, the number of which would equal or come close to equal to the 18awg, to increase skin surface in hopes of increasing the bemf's potential.  I think that trying to get the most out of back emf is crucial to efficiency. 
Then do test runs to see if there is a difference.

This is one of my reasons for the larger reeds is to handle the load of this test. I could recreate my lil green coil i have been using, but it is 26 awg and the wire would need to be very fine to get a good number of conductors to equal the one.
Hope that makes sense. =]

Thank guys

Magluvin

Groundloop


plengo

@Groundloop

That is so nice. So, you are charging the battery using the BEMF from pulsating the coils? I guess I can replicate that pretty fast. Can you post a picture of the coils?

Fausto.