I see an economic diasater coming...

[Jack Noskills]

This 911 discussion reminded me of a video I saw couple of years back. There was President Bush sitting in a chair in some place and it was said that in this video Mr. Bush heard about the 911 attacks for the first time. A man came next to him, leaned down a bit and whispered something to presidents ear. This whispering lasted maybe 2-3 seconds. There was no shock, amazement or anything shown in his face. It was a poker face. Next president leaned forward to get up from the chair, face looking a bit down as he stood up. I could see part of his eyes, he looked right, maybe I saw a grin. A quilty look, trying to get strength what he is going to say, a kid almost getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar, knowing that with proper words he can wiggle out of the situation. He started to speak, still a poker face. Explained how two aeroplanes hijacked by terrorists has hit world trade center, how many people had died and so on. Long speech with plenty of information about the attacks. When I heard this I immediately started thinking, how the hell he could get this information from that man within 3 seconds ? Only thing that man had time to say would be, "Mr. President, its done".

Another video I saw was from the attack to Pentagon. This was taken from a helicopter that was flying above Pentagon when the hit occurred. There was no aeroplane, it was a missile shot from nearby garage ! You have seen pictures from the Pentagon hit ? Ever wondered where the hell is the rest of the plane, big engines size of a truck should not disintegrate to nothing. And why the wings of the plane left no signs to the building ? There were markings from the wings in World trade center. There was only a hole in the wall of the Pentagon building. It was no aeroplane, it was a missile.

[evolvingape]

Hi everyone,

I was a student learning my trade as an aircraft technician on September 11 2001 and I remember the shock and awe of that day. I first learned of the attacks at morning break around 10.30am as the media were playing the impacts into the towers, over and over and over again. As a result they are now burned into my mind, I will never be able to forget them. Those responsible for the attacks, in the eyes of the media and government, were immediately known and this information was repeated over and over and over again. If I was cynical I would have to conclude that a pre-prepared script was synchronised between all information outlets for dissemination to a stunned public.

As an aircraft engineer I have the background to understand what most people do not. I know that aircraft would not have brought down the towers in the way we are told they did. I know what controlled demolition looks like and what a thermite cutting charge squib looks like. I know that a controlled implosion requires coordinated, simultaneous severing, of all structural load bearing members. I also know that it takes many days to prepare a buildings structure to create this scenario.

I also know what aircraft wreckage on the ground looks like, and it most certainly does not look like what we see at the Pentagon, so in all probability the Pentagon was a missile, targeting the Office of Naval Intelligence. I believe that the document I linked to was focusing on the motive for the attack, which was primarily financial. The information regarding the Pentagon aircraft primarily focuses on flight path which is enough to create serious doubt in a thinking persons mind about the legitimacy of the official story.

I also know that a building does not, and has never previously in history, imploded at free fall speed from a few small isolated fires. This is the scenario that we see with building 7. Controlled demolition is the only logical answer possible. This is such an obvious case of pre-preparedness that I must conclude that an element of the plan, the cover, for some reason did not materialise. Perhaps the airplane designated to strike building 7 never made it, and the decision was made to “pull” the building anyway, as to not do so would mean the discovery of cutting charges on the structural members of the building, by the rescue teams and fire fighters. This begs the obvious question of who could possibly have the access required to wire it for demolition, in a building that housed the FBI and quite a number of other alphabet soup agencies ?

So the official story is false in almost every way, and considering it's widespread availability and propogation by the media directly after the event, it must have been prepared before the event. Almost none of it is based in fact or physics, or even logic.

Then if you consider that an operation on this scale would require suitable decapitation of the military response, a method to achieve this must be implemented. This method exists and can be found in play during many terror events of recent history:

7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=821

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=118940

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc

Some of you will realise that exactly the same mode of operation, terror drills with an uncanny resemblance to what actually happened, was in play on 911 and was the official reason why there was no military response and interception of hijacked airplanes after the first struck the tower. Once you do some digging you will find that Dick Cheney is documented to have assumed direct control of NORAD during this time and did not order an interception of remaining airliners. In fact, the way the military works, interception of airliners by fighter jets would have been an automatic standard operating procedure, therefore it is reasonable to conclude that an order must be given to NOT follow standard procedure and scramble the jets. Maybe they just got confused ?

How does all this relate to the economy ?

Well it is reasonable to consider that not all of the military is bad, therefore men of courage and integrity must exist in these structures, and will be fighting back. Is it reasonable to suspect that the stock market crash and lock down of September 2008 was a move of the chess pieces by the good guys ?

Is it also reasonable to suspect that the current market situation is hidden financial warfare and is approaching end game ?

How does all this effect you ? Well, when you consider that nearly all assets in your nation are now owned by private interests, and were bought from the government using a fiat currency whose value can, and is, regularly altered then it is only a matter of time before all hard assets end up in the hands of corporations, and ultimately the few individuals that control those corporations.

This has already occurred in London where everything from the police force to the very housing estates you live on are incorporated. Don't believe me ? Take a drive around London and see how many “Corporation of this” or “Corporation of that” signs you can see. These Corporations act as a business and are registered as a business, they receive grants to run the services the people need and this money comes from taxes. So you go to work, have the tax removed from your pay packet before you get it, this tax is then paid to a PRIVATE CORPORATION to look after you, and keep you working like a good little slave..

You, me, our family's and our children are simply cattle, managed by private individuals for their own profit and power. You do not have the right to complain about the situation, because in order to complain about it, you must first know about it.

So what does this all mean ? Well, it plays out a lot like a Hollywood movie, except it is so unbelievable, so vast in scale, that most will not be able to entertain the notion, and therefore, business as usual can continue.

I was wondering to myself what I would do if I was writing the script for this movie, and I came up with an ending that would be truly fitting for the big screen!

Keep the shell game going a bit longer, pump more liquidity into the market via quantitative easing to create a global hyper-inflation in the same way as we did with the Weimar Republic pre WW2. Time the economic collapse with the cover story, a period we have primed in their minds before hand, of massive solar flare activity. Dump the economy in a day, massive social unrest will occur and we will be forced to implement Martial Law. Then coordinate with the other governments around the planet to detonate nuclear weapons in the atmosphere causing a Global EMP event that wipes out our civilisations technology. Retire into our bunkers we have been building for the last 70 years under military bases, wait for the people who have now become raging animals to kill each other in an attempt to survive. Then we can come back to the surface, owning every resource that exists, and what opposition is left will be minimal, and confused anyway, because they think the Sun did this to them, and they think we are the saviours. Break out the cigar's and brandy gentlemen... Mission Accomplished!

Hmm... Too far fetched ?

Wakey, Wakey Children...

I will leave you with what George Carlin thought about the American Dream...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

RM

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Regarding posted Replies #1453 & 31454:
I like your observations in general.
My Dad was actually an "aeronautical" engineer, as it was called then.  My Mom was related to Sir Isaac Newton; so physics and engineering are in my DNA, so to speak.
    The economy is headed for a 'smack-down' and other countries weaker than ours are just as likely to contribute to this free-for-all 'donnybrook', as it were.
    (I tend to write and/or speak in literary cliches' when I'm getting upset---like now.)

Nevertheless, I have food stocked up ahead and I live in a strong building in San Francisco; with a locked front door, which is staffed 24/7.

People tend to put off the inevidable until the last second, but I hope the Members of this 'Web board are smarter than that.

--Lee

[ramset]

RM
Good observations ,I grew up in the construction biz in NYC ,Was In the towers 100's of times
doing testing for contractors ,I got called in 93 to the first bombing by the chief engineer for the port authority [they owned the towers].It so happened I was showing him a magnesium lance at Laguardia airports main runway at the time of the bombing and he thought I could use it in the
Tower sub basement ,they were afraid to "vibrate" anything ,It was freaking scary Sh%t
And since I would of been running the lance I'm glad they decided against it [fire hazard].

  I was in building seven many times also [during construction] ,that place was built
Like a bomb shelter HUGE iron !!
Your scenario for that makes sense!


I spent a decade in  high risk demolition in NYC after that time in my life and
I have to say until recently I bought it all hook line and sinker,the towers were built like a shopping mall [light weight concrete and barjoist ]I can't believe they stayed up as long as they did [during the "event"}

Well I see things differently Now...................

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the special forces helicopter incident recently was also
a set up.

Chet

[triffid]

Well the preceding discussion makes us dead as a nation if true(9/11).And puts before us a very dark future.At some point they will come for our social security benefits.So I will be doing realestate as a side until that comes to a grinding halt.Hopefully I will have couple of years to do something.Stock market dropped again today.Now that stock IVR has a dividend yield of 23%.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Fear returned to Wall Street on Wednesday, sending the S&P 500 to another 4 percent decline, triggered by worries that Europe's debt crisis could engulf French banks and spill onto the U.S. financial sector.