I see an economic diasater coming...

[triffid]

We need to get the space elevator going.That would make life interesting.triffid

[fritznien]

RM i don't believe a word. lost generation council flat aircraft tech engineer with no future.
you want to cut the bullshit. none of what your going on about has a shred of proof.
i have watched so many 911 vids and i just don't see anything to support an inside job.
crash plus fire puts stress on the structure, heat expands the bracing which lets the building sag.
when this goes far enough down she comes. nobody uses thermite to bring down buildings they use shaped charges.
they don't mine the whole building they do 2 floors, how do you mine the floor so that the plane dose not cut the wires and set the charges on fire?if if it was an inside job why would they care if the building comes down, 300 dead 3000 30000 the result is the same outrage.
so many ways to commit a fake act of war with so much better control of damage and the press so they use planes and missiles, sure
pull the other one.
fritznien

[Jack Noskills]

Maybe you should watch the video again, after plane has hit. What is that hot hot hot looking thingie coming out of the wall ? It is liquid steel from the building, a thermite reaction. I read that aluminum of the plane and gasoline together burn at 1200 degrees celcius. Steel structure that holds the building needs 2500 degrees before it melts. You cannot use charges if you want to be covert, thermite burns steel like hot knife through butter. Couple of months before attacks Halliburton Co. got a deal to do something in those buildings. It is said that they installed thermite packages at that time. Quess which company got the deal to clean up the mess afterwards ? Halliburton Co. Nice thing you can cover your own tracks.
Why did they use a missile on Pentagon and not aeroplain ? Because it is impossible to hit with such a large plane in that angle without hitting that hangar first where the missile was fired. And why this was taken on video ? So they can show it on the news when time is right to irritate people, to create people vs government. But why it was on the net ? Maybe someone screwed up or wanted to make peace with himself.

About this People vs Government, have you guys heard about those huge FEMA camps ? Barb wired camps, inside camp white buildings, no windows and many chimneys. I dont think they are reguired for heating as camps are in the desert in the middle of nowhere. Why there are 500 thousand family size coffins in those camps ? I have seen pics in the net. I dont think they are for war heroes. If you suddenly get lots of dead bodies you cannot burn them all at once, you need to store them for a while.
And quess who built those camps ? Ha-ha-halliburton co. It is somehow related to Bush family.

How to upset people enough to start this war ? It has already started in middle east, now it is spreading. You need to irritate people from many directions to reach critical mass. Accidentially kill a man, preferrably black and father of many children, do it in some EU country. It should create some reaction, modus operandi. Put some fire starters on the street and people join.
Then you start to collapse economy, this has required years of work and now it is time to collect the fruit. For middle east you dont need that as people there got more temperament, they also got oil so it is difficult to collapse economy there. For europeans you need to hit where it hurts the most, the wallet. First Greece, then Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland. Rest of EU countries will support them but there is too many and they will go down too. Money loses value.

But I have to look at the bright side. I have debts so soon I can repay it by selling few carrots on the street I have grown my self. Sarcasm, my good friend.

Why all this mayhem ? Maybe it is so that people look the other way and wont see the real threat that is coming. And what is that they dont want us to see ? Your quess is as good as mine, time will tell.

[evolvingape]

Mr fritznien,

It appears I have upset your delicate sensibilities. I am not obligated to provide you with proof on my personal opinion, especially when it relates to my childhood, and my circumstances. I share this information freely with you and I invite you to believe it or not. If you think I am bullshitting you, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that.

Regarding your statement that you have watched so many 911 vids and see nothing to support an inside job, I have to question whether you had your eyes open and the sound on at the time ? As you have provided no links to the videos you claim to have watched, with supporting comments as to why these vids demonstrate absolute proof of no inside job, I have no option but to present a small part of my argument, demonstrating inexplicable events, that only make sense when an inside job is factored into the evaluation of the argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozTnINH6Yls&feature=player_embedded

Here in this video we have an eyewitness survivor explaining what he saw. Now I am no demolition expert, but what he is describing here sure sounds to me like a controlled cutting sequence of squibs. Please explain to me how this eyewitness account can be explained by a crash + fire + sag ? Unless of course you are going to claim that this video and event is faked in which case further investigation will be required to prove or disprove that statement. (psst... this is your out )

http://www.net4truthusa.com/wtcdemolition.htm

Here is an interesting theory regarding the cuts found on the bases of the main structural load bearing members of the tower. These were either created during the destruction of the towers, that fell into their own footprint, or as some are claiming they were cut by the cleanup crew after the event. Maybe Chet (ramset) has some comments about this having worked in this business for decades ?

http://terral-911.blogspot.com/2009/02/wtc-7-was-taken-down-using-controlled.html

Some more information for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeNA1g&feature=related

Here is just a very small snippet of information available in this segment of a longer program, that I have already talked about. I am sure you have already seen this vid though and so look forward to a thorough and detailed explanation from you explaining why none of this evidence points to an inside job.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/WTC_ch5.htm

Here is an interesting page on WTC7 above, and below an interesting comparison video of footage of controlled demolition and building 7. Also note that in the first video towards the end is the very interview where Larry Silverstein states they made the decision to “pull” the building, and then watched it collapse. I wish they had asked him how he managed to find a team to wire the building for demolition in such a short time, minutes, instead of days or weeks as is normal for professionals. What a labour saving method he is sitting on! worth a fortune to the demolition industry!! Maybe you can explain it to us ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5akpnIFK-RM

I am also particularly interested in your statement:

“crash plus fire puts stress on the structure, heat expands the bracing which lets the building sag.”

It appears here that you alone are privy to an entirely new area of building physics regarding sag... Please could you explain this fully and completely, as it relates to building 7, because as far as I know no plane “crashed” into this “bunker” and so your formula is reduced to fire = sag... which is difficult to get your head around when no other building in the history of civilisation has collapsed at free fall speed simultaneously due to a (short, small) fire and then “sagged”...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnnjIzamnJo

And regarding your comments about the plane cutting wires on charges... erm... if the charges are below where the plane strikes... what wires will there be to cut ? This was such a silly statement I think you might have made a mistake... or at the very least need to make a clarification of what you actually meant...

And regarding fake acts of war it appears that you have not read the “presumed” ONI document I linked too that lays out a very convincing case for the motives, and therefore targets, of the attack being documentation and case files, as well as employees of the targeted companies, in which case the method of “attack” was exceptionally efficient at achieving that goal. (Was there too many pages, too many words ? Not enough pictures ? Let me know and I will try and find you a ladybird version )

I cannot wait for your reply, and all the juicy vids and evidence and commentary you have for us, proving conclusively that there is no evidence whatsoever of insider involvement in these atrocities...

RM

[WilbyInebriated]

More bad news http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0&feature=related  the us army prepares to invade the USA.
triffid

this video is from 2008...

i have watched so many 911 vids and i just don't see anything to support an inside job.

and i've seen nothing to support the 'official' story... what's your point?

if if it was an inside job why would they care if the building comes down, 300 dead 3000 30000 the result is the same outrage.

money (insurance)...  duh.
i too am eager to hear of your new physics of 'fire=sag' and the see the evidences you have to support your new brand of physics... yeah pull the other one fritzy...



@evolving ape... come on man... facts have no business here...