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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: lancaIV on December 04, 2013, 03:00:54 AM
Hello,
                        credit -(minus) Mindest-reserve= In-flation
                                                                                           (in-flationare= Auf-Blasung z.B. Ballon mit Luftpumpe)
                     so as consequence up to 95% of the numeric prices and wages(-prices) worldwide will going down :
                                                                     if credit-market related .
Agreed.   There is no good end, here.   This looks bad.   As I told my thread-posting-partner, triffid, "If you own a gun, make sure it works and you have plenty of ammo for it.   Otherwise, shrapen your knife."
   I myself collect readily available, legal, Samurai sword replicas that come out of the box as sharp as a long, heavy machete.   It told "Dr." (No)wak as much, too.
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It is not a crash it is "normality is coming back",re-flationare .
                                                  Controlled" Air out " from the " non capital-saved credit economy ballon" 
Sincerely
              OCWL
I don't necessarily agree.   People will get scared when they realize they might not be able to put food on the table.   Scared people can do rash things, especially in an angry mob environment.
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p.s.: the_big_m_in_ok :  I say, "More power to her."   Both of them, actually.
         I look at this
         https://www.google.pt/search?q=madonna+daughter&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZRKfUv-XGabP0QWS4IGQAg&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1329&bih=525#facrc=0%3Bmadonna%20daughter%20beach&imgrc=_
         and I am only more : gagagagagagagagaggagagagaagag  YOU UNDERSTAND ? ::) Original vanGag
I understand.   She looks like her mother, a little.   I also had a lot more hair when I was a teenager (of course).   She has, and I had, eyebrow hair that grew together between our eyes.   It's ovbiously genetic, you know.    Our ethnic origins are similar.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

lancaIV

          Agreed.   There is no good end, here.   This looks bad.   As I told my thread-posting-partner, triffid, "If you own a gun, make sure it works and you have plenty of ammo for it.   Otherwise, shrapen your knife."
   I myself collect readily available, legal, Samurai sword replicas that come out of the box as sharp as a long, heavy machete.   It told "Dr." (No)wak as much, too.
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                             Do you know where you have been on 02.10.1985 at 20.30°clock p.m. ?
                  I know it -by ticket- that I have been,partnered by a similar girl like her (but younger) in
                                          Munich/Bavaria,Alabama-Hall(e),Schleissheimer Strasse 418 :

                                                                  Tour `85
                               http://www.myvideo.de/watch/7421343/Anne_Clark_Weltschmerz

                                                           The same old story
     
Sincerely
               OCWL


p.s.: 500 years history         http://www.sfjff.org/film/detail?id=591 but really no much related wih 400.000 years Anthropology

                                            04:12:13
Anthropology
, Retold A 400,000 years old Sexgeschichte

The bones lay in a quaint little place.  You could be witnessing a disaster.  One thing is clear: even 400,000 years ago, people mingled in Western Europe and Siberia from. Pia Heinemann 

Photo: Javier Trueba, MADRID SCIENTIFIC FILMS
So might have looked like the people whose bones in the Sima de los Huesos were found
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The 28 skeletons lay on an inhospitable place: temperatures just above 10 degrees Celsius, the air is extremely humid.  Who wants in this cooling chamber must down into the earth, to squeeze through a cave, climb into a 13 meter deep hole.  At the bottom of this hole in the Sima de los Huesos, (such as "bone pit") rested the bones and maintained a 400 thousand years old history.

The complex cave system in the northern Sierra de Atapuerca is Paleontologists have long been known as one of the most important sites of people that lived around half a million years.  The natural corridors and chambers of the cave have Sampayo and Pedro Mariano Zuaznávar described in 1868.  The bone chamber they found.  But at that time it was not clear how unique it is.

"Today, the bones are in a safe in an archaeological institute in Madrid," says Matthias Meyer of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology (MPI-Eva) in Leipzig.  Meyer is a special kind of genetic researchers him not interested in the genetic material of people today, but our early and earliest ancestors and relatives.  Neanderthal and Denisova man, Homo heidelbergensis and Co - based on the genes of the different Homininenarten try Meyer and his colleagues trace the history of mankind.  In "Nature" present the anthropologists new insights into the bone from the Sima de los Huesos.

Man 
From Sahelanthropus to Homo sapiens
The traces of man
Before 7-6 million years ago
6 million years ago
Before 4.4 million years
Before 3.2 million years
Above 2.5 to 2.3 million years ago
Before 1.8 million - 300,000
160,000 years ago
10,000 years - 120,000 Against
40,000 years ago

Neanderthals & humans 
And they have done it yet ...

Human traces 
Milestones of seven million years ago

Early ritual burial site?


There are various theories about the bone pit.  The discovery of an unused, very symmetrical hand ax from quartzite and ocher, an unusual material in this region, nurtured the idea that it might be in the Sima de los Huesos an early ritual burial place, to act the testimony of a death cult.

The hand ax, the researchers gave the nickname Excalibur could have been a grave side dish for the dead.  Such a complex cult of the dead could turn to conclusions about thoughts and feelings of the then living hominins: You may have had emotional feeling could possibly symbolic and reflexive thinking and deal with life and death.  "Many anthropologists doubt it though, as there has been no evidence of such an early ritual burials," says Meyer.  Maybe the bones are evidence of a disaster in which many people fell into it through a chute into the cave system.  Maybe people were rinsed by a flood or a flood in the cave system.  "But in the end no one knows how the group of people has entered there."

The mystery surrounding the death in the bone pit will probably never be known.  But paleontologists try to find out more about the lives of early humans.

Tiny holes in old bone


For this reason, Matthias Meyer was almost a year ago before the security cabinets in Madrid.  In the laboratory, he drilled carefully six tiny holes in the approximately 400,000-year-old femur.  He took 1.95 grams of bone substance and transported the precious material to Leipzig.  Here, the researchers prepared the samples in two steps: First, they broke up the bones and extracted genetic material.  Then the pure DNA of the mitochondria was artificially assembled again, so that the genes were sequenced.  "The fact that we have examined the genetic makeup of the power plants of cells, is because it it just a lot more out there than DNA from the cell nucleus," explains geneticist.

How many surprises can experience scientists in genetic study ancient heritage, showed a Fund from 2010 at the latest.  At that time, researchers have also examined bone meal Svante Pääbo and Johannes Krause of the MPI Eve.  It came from the cells of a 40,000-year-old pinky bone from Denisova cave in southern Siberia Altai mountains.  Even the mitochondrial DNA showed that this Denisova man was a separate species that lived at the same time with the Neanderthals in the Far East.  The subsequent decoding of genetic information from the nucleus, in which Matthias Meyer was involved, confirmed the finding: Using a single finger bone and two molars identified the genetic researchers a previously unknown Frühmenschenart.

Genes continue to exist to this day


Genetic research begins slowly to revolutionize the classic anthropology, which is mainly based on anatomical comparisons.  "The finger bones of the Denisova people looked morphologically the same as that of a Neanderthal," says Meyer.  "But deciphering the genes showed then that they were only close relatives, but no Neanderthal in the real sense, we were able to track the genetic traces of the Denisova people even up to the present time. Certain living today ethnic groups in the Philippines, Papua New Guinea and the Aborigines in Australia are related to the Denisova people from the Altai mountains. "

Scientists therefore believe that the Denisova people were once widespread and mingled with Homo sapiens.  The people from the Altai Mountains died, but their genes continue to exist to this day in modern humans.

Currently, anthropologists believe that modern man has left between 70,000 and 100,000 years ago on the Arabian Peninsula and Africa is then pushed relatively quickly to Neanderthals in Europe, with whom he also propagated itself.  This is evidenced traces of the Neanderthal genome in each people living today.  Sometime later, the modern man then met on Denisova people with whom she also testified descendants, and moved on in the direction of Oceania and Australia.  "This part of the story we understand nowadays quite well," says Meyer.

How did Neanderthal to Eastern Europe?


The history before the time of Homo sapiens but holds many mysteries.  So is still unclear how and when the Neanderthals came to Europe, where the Denisova people came and when and where they separated these two Homininenarten.  "Today's favored idea is that much earlier than Homo sapiens, a group of early humans, perhaps 500,000 years ago, from Africa came to Europe. It could have been Homo heidelbergensis, which in Europe then further evolved into the Neanderthals and the Denisova people . "But much is still in the dark," Meyer admits. "There are few fossils from the time before a half million years ago, many are poorly preserved, most complete."

But now describe Meyer and his colleagues in the journal "Nature" that they could catch a first glimpse at this early time.  This helped them to the samples from the bone pit.  "All paleontologists were present for the fossils from the Sima de los Huesos actually agree that it is Neanderthal bones. Anatomically saw the fragments simply by clearly from Neanderthals."  However, the analysis of mitochondrial DNA showed a different picture: "Instead of the typical Neanderthal DNA we found evidence of the Denisova people."

Scientists Neanderthal genome had found in the cave, which would have fit into the previously dominant image.  But the Denisova finding new raises a new question: Why there is inheritance of the people of southern Siberia in the Spanish Sierra de Atapuerca?  "We do not know," says Meyer.  "The Denisova man is itself a mystery. Now we find his DNA even in Spain."

To know more about the life of hominins 400,000 years ago, researchers from the MPI Eva small holes will soon again drill into the bone.  They hope that the genetic material from the nucleus of the cells holds some answers for them.
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triffid

My internet was out for a few days,just now getting back to posting here.Interesting talk about mans early origins.It appeals to me.I have a BS in biology.I did hear that the unemployment rate for the USA is now down to 7.0%It was 7.3%.The fast food workers are striking now for higher wages.http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/12/05/fast-food-strike-wages/3877023/  I do believe that they will not get their $15.00 an hour goal.I just dont think the fast food coporations will give in that much.Hopefully they may get a union.triffid




The timing is good. In recent days, Pope Francis and President Obama have spoken out against growing income inequality.
"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" the pope asked.
Obama, who has expressed support for a Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, echoed the pope's concerns in a speech Wednesday. Obama noted that the American economy had doubled in size since 1979, but most of that growth has been restricted to a "fortunate few."

triffid

That forunate few turns out be just about 3% of the USA population.triffid


Here is an article that says one in five are richer than they thought?


http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/12/06/rising-riches-1-in-5-in-us-reaches-affluence/3894929