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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

Farmhand

AC, Hillary is a War Monger of the highest degree. There are only two places a war monger should be, one is Jail the other is on the front line with a gun ducking bullets and bombs. The world is sick and tired of the U.S. war mongering. Personally I do not see any way out if Hillary is elected, I think several conflict zones will escalate into U.S. - Russian conflict. In my own opinion I consider Hillary to be a driver for terrorism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTmPnEsKsfw

It would seem that the wheels are falling off the U.S. ability to lever the financial system. And that could be making the TPTB behind the U.S. policy desperate.

Lets hope cooler heads prevail. Nobody wants the kind of incidents in the videos below to go hot !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4sKAMgYsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6JGkPcgV9c

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SeaMonkey

Looking at the various facets of the looming
Disaster:

The Media is being primed to rig the election

Quote from: The Article
It is now apparent that the same media which has rigged every debate, every question, every Clinton appearance, every act of "Trump rally" violence, every female accuser of Donald Trump and every poll is preparing to rig the voting results on election night.

Yes, the leftist media is plotting with Clinton operatives to quite literally steal the election using the most audacious and bold act of mass media "sleight of hand" that has ever been pulled off in history.

It has come to my attention through several sources that media outlets are preparing graphics for a Clinton win but not a Trump win. The rehearsals taking place inside large media networks are all rehearsals for the following narrative which will be blasted out on election night:

1) Hillary Clinton has won the "democratic" vote and "democracy" must be respected.

2) Donald Trump must immediately concede defeat in order to stop violent protests (i.e. an armed citizens' revolt from overthrowing the corrupt, criminal power base in Washington).

This narrative will be pounded hard on election night, even as the media outlets are conspiring to fabricate election results that in no way reflect the actual votes cast by legitimate American voters.

Doctors who discover effective cures for cancer
are eliminated


Quote from: The Article
Because cancer is such an immense profit generator, it seems logical that Big Pharma companies don't want a cure to come out any time soon – especially a holistic, natural one. Cancer has become an indispensable business asset to drug makers, and if it were to be cured, they would lose billions of research dollars annually.  This should raise more public alarm than it has – because by commodifying this disease, Big Pharma has effectively become dependent on the suffering and deaths of millions of cancer victims every year. Their pain is pharmaceutical pay dirt.

Without a cure, cancer victims need to pay for chemo treatment and other medical commodities on extended basis – sometimes for decades. Beyond that stream of revenue, fundraisers and donations scrape together huge amounts of cash and other resources. It's a veritable gold rush for medical providers and drug companies around the world. And who knows how far they'd go to protect that asset?

This isn't the first time that holistic doctors have died of mysterious circumstances, in light of discovering some breakthrough. And it certainly won't be the last time.


The Refugees flooding into Europe are an
invasion.
Quote from: The Article
Fully 72% of the "refugees" from the Syrian Civil War are males. Only 15% are children, and even fewer are women – 13%.

So why is this important? Because many are beginning to wonder if this is really a refugee problem, or if it's an orchestrated invasion of Europe by young males of fighting age.

They don't even pretend to deny that the reason they're trying to get to Europe is for the welfare and benefits the socialist countries will bestow on them.

But is there a more insidious intent behind this wave of "refugees" that Europe is welcoming?

The numbers don't lie.


The IMF does its job to assure the Disaster
will be enormous


Quote from: The Article
The banks' product is debt. They try to tell customers that "debts are good for you," but the customers can't afford any more debt, so there's no way the banks can continue their current business plan. In fact, there's no way that banks can be paid everything that they're owed. That's what the IMF doesn't follow through its analysis, by saying, "Look, the banks are broke because the financial system is broke; and the financial system is broke because the whole idea of trying to get rich by running into debt doesn't work."

It was a false model. So really, we're at the end of long cycle that began in 1945, loading the economy with debt. We're not going to be able to get out of it until you write down the debts. But that's what the IMF believes is unthinkable. It can't say that, because it's supposed to represent the interest of the banks. So all the IMF can say is to wring their hands over the fact that the banks won't make money even if there is a recovery.

But there really isn't a recovery, and no signs of it on the horizon, because people have to pay the banks. It's a vicious circle – or rather, a downward spiral. Basically, the IMF economists are just throwing up their hands and admitting that they don't know what to do, given the limits of their tunnel vision.


Democrat Operatives and their Agitators
Quote from: The Article
Scott Foval, the national field director for Americans United for Change, explained how the scheme works.

"The [Clinton] campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, The Foval Group goes and executes the shit," Foval told an undercover journalist.

One example of the "shit" Foval executes was an instance in which a 69-year-old woman garnered headlines after claiming to be assaulted at a Trump rally.
"She was one of our activists," Foval said.

Creamer's job was to "manage" the work carried out by Foval.
"And the Democratic Party apparatus and the people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign and my role with the campaign, is to manage all that," Creamer told an undercover journalist.

"Wherever Trump and Pence are gonna be we have events," he said.

allcanadian

@Seamonkey
QuoteThis narrative will be pounded hard on election night, even as the media outlets are conspiring to fabricate election results that in no way reflect the actual votes cast by legitimate American voters.


It is quite natural to believe any game is rigged more so when were losing...the problem is we never think this when were winning. If we were winning should the losers always believe we rigged the game? well no we call that being a poor sport.


Quote
Fully 72% of the "refugees" from the Syrian Civil War are males. Only 15% are children, and even fewer are women – 13%.
So why is this important? Because many are beginning to wonder if this is really a refugee problem, or if it's an orchestrated invasion of Europe by young males of fighting age.
They don't even pretend to deny that the reason they're trying to get to Europe is for the welfare and benefits the socialist countries will bestow on them.
But is there a more insidious intent behind this wave of "refugees" that Europe is welcoming?


I would imagine these same statistics would apply to most people who immigrated to the U.S. in the last 240 years. Now they call themselves Americans and if they applied this same rule 240 years ago most of them would not be Americans and would have been denied entry. First it was those dirty chinese, then those italians, then those germans and those japanese. I would submit practically nothing has changed in the last 240 years and racism is alive and well.


The problem I see is discrimination tends to escalate... I don't like you because of where you live, or because of the color of your skin or your political views or your occupation or how you dress or the length of your hair. The intelligent choice is to opt out of this absurd game because at some point we will be judged by others following the same rule... we are not an exception to this rule.


QuoteThe banks' product is debt. They try to tell customers that "debts are good for you," but the customers can't afford any more debt, so there's no way the banks can continue their current business plan. In fact, there's no way that banks can be paid everything that they're owed. That's what the IMF doesn't follow through its analysis, by saying, "Look, the banks are broke because the financial system is broke; and the financial system is broke because the whole idea of trying to get rich by running into debt doesn't work."


I think once again most are playing the blame game. I know many people who have no debt because they lived well within their means and made wise choices. Myself not so much however I do know who to blame for my debt... I'm pretty sure it was me. Hell I practically demanded more credit or debt from the bank which in retrospect seems strange. Now I'm trying to get out of debt and it seems to be working pretty well so far.


Quote"The [Clinton] campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, The Foval Group goes and executes the shit," Foval told an undercover journalist.

One example of the "shit" Foval executes was an instance in which a 69-year-old woman garnered headlines after claiming to be assaulted at a Trump rally."She was one of our activists," Foval said.


If you rolled into a Clinton rally with a "Rotten Hillary belongs in jail"  T shirt yelling Hillary sucks and you got assaulted... would this surprise you?. So why would anyone be surprised if the opposite may be true?. I'm pretty sure both sides have there fair share of nut jobs and who the hell goes to a rally anyways?. It's like an extremist convention for the politically insane.


In any case I would tend to lean towards Hillary because she can talk in full sentences and not butcher the English language in the process. It's my litmus test for people I tend to trust more so than others.




AC






Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

SeaMonkey

Your thoughts and commentary are always very
interesting AC.

An honest man who was "winning" in a rigged
"election" would reject such result and demand
an honest re-appraisal.  In today's political
environment an "honest re-appraisal" may not
even be possible because the corruption is so
pervasive.  These final two weeks before the election
should be very entertaining.  The "election" itself
promises to be a real "Majick" show.

Does anyone really believe that it matters which of
the two candidates is placed into the "office?"

The "Deep State" cares not who they are provided
with as a "Puppet" to do their bidding.  If the
Puppet should prove to be "independent" and too
much concerned with honestly looking after the
real needs of the Nation then he will be assassinated.
Their Power is that great.

The People no longer have any voice in matters.  In
truth it is doubtful if the People ever did...

allcanadian

@seamonkey
QuoteAn honest man who was "winning" in a rigged[/size]"election" would reject such result and demandan honest re-appraisal.  In today's politicalenvironment an "honest re-appraisal" may noteven be possible because the corruption is sopervasive.  These final two weeks before the electionshould be very entertaining.  The "election" itselfpromises to be a real "Majick" show.


An honest person?, you may as well be asking for the moon, lol.
QuoteDoes anyone really believe that it matters which of[/size]the two candidates is placed into the "office?"


Good point, to be honest no I don't think it matters.


QuoteThe "Deep State" cares not who they are provided
with as a "Puppet" to do their bidding.  If the
Puppet should prove to be "independent" and too
much concerned with honestly looking after the
real needs of the Nation then he will be assassinated.
Their Power is that great.


I would agree, in the last Canadian election we had a choice to either subsidize big business with the extreme right wing knowing big business is oppressive. Or we could choose another more moderate party which limits the powers of big business. We chose the latter however I think your choice is a more difficult one. Both Clinton and Trump seem to be pushing the corporate agenda.


Personally I find it strange that anyone would support the extreme right wing giving corporations god like powers then complain the corporations are oppressing them. Like wise supporting the extreme left wing simply replaces the corporation with the state producing a similar result. I like where our current government is going and they seem to be moderate balancing corporate interests with public interests.


Even more strange is the fact most extreme right wingers like to label anyone not in agreement with them as commies. As if to say whenever the government acts in the public's best interests this is wrong while also demanding the government act in their own best interests. As if they were not an integral part of the general public but something else. Why not just say... give the corporations god like powers so they can oppress me so I can bitch about corporations having too much power over me. It makes no sense to me because they are literally asking for trouble.




AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.