I see an economic diasater coming...

[X00013]

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[the_big_m_in_ok]

Mark my words,  late 2010,  of the city your in.

Point taken.  Take a look at:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE65E5JT20100615
This will probably have far reaching consequences.  When people people have no money with which to make their lives comfortable, they might do whatever it takes to survive.

Additionally, there's this:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Newhome-sales-plunge-33-pct-apf-1236863702.html?x=0
Double dip?

Also this:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/LB18Dj02.html
Greece is like a coal mine canary.  Social unrest could happen here as well, as it did on the streets of Athens or other cities.  I say X00013 has a point.  But, I have nowhere to run to.  On the other hand, I live in a secure, front-door-locked  8th-floor  high-rise that's also one of the sturdiest buildings in San Francisco.  Freshly upgraded to strict earthquake codes.

However, if you can get to the country with food, water and a reliable gun/ammo combination, so much the better.  This whole scenario could get more than *unpleasant* when the money runs out.  That goes for just about everyone who lives in a metropolitan city or rural town.

--Lee

[the_big_m_in_ok]

http://www.examiner.com/a-2695960~Fed_strikes_more_cautious_tone_on_US_recovery.html

X00013 may be correct in posting this article.  Here's one that paints a grim picture:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/opinion/28krugman.html

And, the article immediately above doesn't take into account the Gulf oil spill and Alex bearing down on the Mexican-Texas border.  Anadarko pulled its workers off Western Gulf production rigs today (28/6/10) and more oil is projected to impact the Gulf shore states.  Near-shore fishing, shrimp and oyster harvesting is probably through for the year.  Maybe 5-10 years.  Nobody knows for sure.  $60 billion in yearly gross sales is at stake, here.  This is something to worry about in a potential development for a double-dip recession.  For starters.

--Lee

[triffid]

I would think that clorox would kill those germs in the water in 15 minutes but an hour is not bad if you can wait. My aluminum foil wires did not melt under the heat from a 20 watt soldering iron.I managed to buy four small solar panels for $7.99 each from "Harbour Freight".They are listed as 9 volt battery chargers.I am buying more canned goods too.Soups,and fish are on my main list now.If you are an apartment dweller you might buy a solar powered battery charger?I will buy some fruit in cans too. triffid

[triffid]

It has been hard for me to stay on the internet lately.A bolt of lightening took out the neigbours tree and his internet router and my internet at home is gone again.Add in the "Av Security Suite" attacks (two so far) and add in the times the internet service is just plain out anyway.I am going 18 miles out of my way to a library where I can borrow a computer to get on the web.Like today ,just to be able to post here.I did buy a 12inch x12 inch ceramic tile to work on my aluminum wires.So I will try to tin them again.
I was happy to find those four solar panels.You can use 9 volts to charge 6 volt batteries with and combine the two 6 volts to get 12 volts.Or by reflecting (using mirrors)twice the light  to
get 18 volts out of it.triffid