I see an economic diasater coming...

[triffid]

According to the Trump Social Security may last until 2030.Still not a lot of time.but more time than 2012.triffid

[triffid]

It would be funny if it weren't sad to think my cans of tuna could become priceless if BP wipes out all fishlife in the oceans.triffid

[the_big_m_in_ok]

I would think that clorox would kill those germs in the water in 15 minutes but an hour is not bad if you can wait. ...

That's right.  The source from the Vietman War said wait at least an hour.  And shake the bottle well.  The water still tasted like cr@p, but it was safe to drink.

My aluminum foil wires did not melt under the heat from a 20 watt soldering iron. ...

Really?  Aluminum gets really weak at about 250 - 300 deg. F and also melts at a relatively low temperature.  Mach 3 fighters are made of steel and titanium for that reason.

... I managed to buy four small solar panels for $7.99 each from "Harbour Freight". ... If you are an apartment dweller you might buy a solar powered battery charger?  They are listed as 9 volt battery chargers. ...

That's a pretty good idea.  I'll have to look into that, but the rechargable batteries are fairly expensive, you know.

I am buying more canned goods too.Soups,and fish are on my main list now.I will buy some fruit in cans too. triffid

Very good idea.  I get paid tomorrow, but I also have some medical bills coming up in a month or two, so that'll be a concern.

--Lee

[the_big_m_in_ok]

It has been hard for me to stay on  lately.A bolt of lightening took out the neigbours tree and his internet router and my internet at home is gone again.

Did you say where you lived in the past on a thread?  Sounds like you live in the "bush" or "sticks" of a rural county. 

Add in the "Av Security Suite" attacks (two so far) and add in the times the internet service is just plain out anyway.I am going 18 miles out of my way to a library where I can borrow a computer to get on the web.Like today ,just to be able to post here.

I've never had to put up with this "Av Security Suite" rogue to slow me down.  I stay on large, well-established sites, but even that is no guarantee that their firewall(s) will stop them.

I did buy a 12inch x12 inch ceramic tile to work on my aluminum wires.So I will try to tin them again.
I was happy to find those four solar panels.You can use 9 volts to charge 6 volt batteries with and combine the two 6 volts to get 12 volts.Or by reflecting (using mirrors)twice the light  to
get 18 volts out of it.triffid

That reminds me:  I checked and Radio Shack doesn't sell solar powered battery chargers.  They do have small, car-specific, battery powered inverters, on the other hand.  I told a salesman, and he agreed, the only way to go the Radio Shack or the auto parts route for solar-powered battery chargers is:

Solar cells----> Batterie(s)---->Inverter---->Battery charger---->Batteries, other appliances

I actually did something like this while living on the streets in order to power an electric shaver from a battery.  I had about 10 small solar cells in parallel to trickle charge a car battery in the winter, that being what they were designed for.   I really needed about 40 of them.  The battery went dead in 3 days.  Not enough savings for a bigger system.

Also, one can experiment with toroids, Caduceus coils, Mobius coils, or other component systems to increase efficiency.

There are other places to go:
1) Sporting goods stores, specifically
2) Wal-Mart/Target store sporting goods sections
3) Mail order distributors of sporting goods in general

--Lee

[triffid]

It turns out that the solar panels I bought for $7.99 each plus sales tax will charge up 12 volt batteries.I have one inside my car charging up 2 AA batteries.I live 30 miles from Dallas,Texas out in the country.Regular batteries can be charged up ten times before they start leaking.An old trick I learned in college many years before.I think I can avoid handling and shipping charges from buying on ebay If I buy from harbour frieght triffid