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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: saikron1 on June 04, 2010, 12:53:21 AM
actually, it is depend on USA how to survive. your ancestor give you a lot of technology to solve coming problem. it is right time to use it. even you guyz can make it in low cost device. why not? ...
Our "elected" leaders, that's why not.  They suppress innovation in engineering and buy up patents so the inventor(s) can't make any money.  They, the leaders, want the money first! And! they want as much as possible!!!!  The politicians don't really represent the people who "elect" them, they represent their own agenda first.
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... forget about oil and gas.... now it is the time to use tesla tech or magnetic energy by own...
Good, right.  I agree with you.  But, whoever tries can be told by Vested Interests to sit down and shut up.  Whoever doesn't comply, can meet with an unfortunate "accident".  Free energy should be part of the answer, yes.  The politics has to change to something better, though.
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...china is now becoming richest country in the world... but they still dun have much on technology and majority the ppl there not really educated.
Perfect point to what I was saying.  Many world leaders are holding their countrymen hostage to the their own whims, in spite of what's in the best interest of their countries population's wishes.  This goes for China, as well.  Stupid, greedy Communists!!!
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i don't why, USA can't make it. USA keep a lot of technology and a lot of talented people. majority educated. why economy still going down.
Even some of the reason is the ordinary people's fault, but not all.  Everyone wants to have an easy, comfortable life.  However, being duped (lied to, that is) by greedy businessmen(AIG/Enron/ BP!!!  >:(   ::)   >:(   ::)   :'(   :'(   :'(    ) is also partly the people's fault.  People want it for less money, or free, if possible.  It's never that easy.  It's hardly ever free.



In closing, you have a point in observation, yes, I see.  I know there are religious references stating that no one is honest, and that's the source of the problem.  As long as people have been alive.  Human nature.

TechStuf!
I already know the religious references whereof I speak.  No need for you to remind everyone.  The average reader can look them up on GOOGLE or I'll let Cap-Z-ro relate them in a post if he wants.  This is his forum and he's the Moderator.  He can do what he wants here.

I think I've tried to answer your questions, though, saikron1.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 04, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
china has more honor students than america has students, so does india... do the math, their coming dominance is inevitable.
Communism, as practiced today, doesn't work because of greed.  You can't spend someone else's money; it always runs out.
I know of only one exception:  An Israeli kibbutz.  And only because it's a small scale operation in terms of money.

Additionally, AIDS is going to take a heavy toll on the Chinese population in a generation or two.  Their Govt is avoiding the problem, to their detriment.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on June 04, 2010, 07:37:15 PM
Communism, as practiced today, doesn't work because of greed.  You can't spend someone else's money; it always runs out.
I know of only one exception:  An Israeli kibbutz.  And only because it's a small scale operation in terms of money.

Additionally, AIDS is going to take a heavy toll on the Chinese population in a generation or two.  Their Govt is avoiding the problem, to their detriment.

--Lee
communism is irrelevant. democracy, as practiced today, doesn't work either... because of greed.
it doesn't matter if the chinese are communist, democratic, fascist or any other form, it is simple math...

aids? ::) why don't you try a cogent argument?
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

saikron1

anyway, this is facts. this country getting stronger now.... we can feel it economy crisis everywhere. i agree with you, china is greedy but they are good in calculating. When they got the money, they can do anything. i don't like china too... they are greedy and over react.
hoping your country leader manage to released something new. American scientist did really good. i really admit and admire their technology. but this technology not using it. really sad to hear this. hoping your government know to appreciate this scientist and change the world. 

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 04, 2010, 08:06:56 PM
communism is irrelevant. democracy, as practiced today, doesn't work either... because of greed.
it doesn't matter if the chinese are communist, democratic, fascist or any other form, it is simple math...
I know all this.
But, when the Chinese don't have any money like everyone else after the economic collapse, they'll act like all other communist states and impose their will militarily on others in their vicinity, regardless of the consequences.  The collapse will probably bring out the worst in people.  Look at movie, The Road, and see what can happen.  Several things can bring about collapse, and it can happen here or anywhere.  Why?  When people have no money, food, water, and warm winter shelter, they often become desperate like in various hotspots around the world.  Africa, the Middle East, Central America with floods and volcanos, etc.

Math?  Math has nothing to do with it, with the possible exception that the Chinese have the biggest population and biggest army in the world.  Those are big numbers, probably to be found on the Internet for those who look.
Is the paragraph above cogent, by that, I mean:  Relevant and strongly pointed out?
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aids? ::) why don't you try a cogent argument?
I intended to indicate AIDS was a long term---very serious---problem, but an absolute fact that can cause, even by itself, an eventual collapse in 20-50 years if nothing else changes.  If not enough people are around to maintain a cultural society, there'll be no cultural society to exist.

There are some very serious problems becoming insurmountable in the future, regardless of what is attempted to solve those problems.  The European debt crisis in one example.  The Gulf oil spill fiasco is another.  America is traveling down the same road to the same result as Greece.  Is this cogent?

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.