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I see an economic diasater coming...

Started by the_big_m_in_ok, September 03, 2009, 01:05:30 AM

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Do you think the American economy will ever improve?

Yes, definitely
Possibly, in the long run
No, it will worsen
Undecided

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on December 15, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
People are showing a lot of anger.  Look at Korea with protests in Seoul, S. Korea, over the North's shelling of a border island.
Speaking again of "Korea", S. Korea wants to continue artillery exercises near where the North shelled the South's border island.  Both sides promise "massive" retaliation if the other side goes too far.  A regional conflict would be more than just *serious* for economic interests in the area if things get out of hand.

The economic crisis is far from over in Europe as well.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

triffid

Everyone seems to have forgotten 2008 when gas was over $4.00 thanks mostly to greedy speculators. In case you haven't noticed, fuel prices are creeping up again and most economists expect the price to be near or at $4.00 again by late spring 2011. The rise is slower this time so as not to alarm the uninformed. Our government "subsidizes" the refining companies in a back-door manner by allowing massive tax breaks although it certainly is increasingly costly to get at the crude and somebody has to pay.. Am I about to riot? Hardly. But I MAY have to curtail operations and lay off people, and this fragile "recovery" will suffer soon as prices rise for everything.
Ethanol, the so-called savior, is actually driving up the price of everything as farmers mow down their corn for fuel and not food; as oil prices rise, so do prices for everything made with it including plastics, clothing , and many foods.
Iran is not the only nation who will suffer soon due to rising fuel prices. This country is in deep economic caca and while there may not be nationwide riots and strikes over cutbacks, there will be a cost -- what that is remains to be seen

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: triffid on December 20, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
Everyone seems to have forgotten 2008 when gas was over $4.00 thanks mostly to greedy speculators. In case you haven't noticed, fuel prices are creeping up again and most economists expect the price to be near or at $4.00 again by late spring 2011.
I did notice, indeed.  Makes me glad I don't own a car.  San Francisco, my hometown, has major street gridlocks every day due to the cars.
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The rise is slower this time so as not to alarm the uninformed. Our government "subsidizes" the refining companies in a back-door manner by allowing massive tax breaks although it certainly is increasingly costly to get at the crude and somebody has to pay..
The companies don't pay taxes, they raise prices and we subsidize the prices with our business.
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Am I about to riot? Hardly. But I MAY have to curtail operations and lay off people, and this fragile "recovery" will suffer soon as prices rise for everything.
Taxes might become higher at the end of the year?  At any rate, prices are creeping up on everything.
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Ethanol, the so-called savior, is actually driving up the price of everything as farmers mow down their corn for fuel and not food; as oil prices rise, so do prices for everything made with it including plastics, clothing , and many foods.
Yeah, a TV news report said the same thing awhile ago.  They, and you, have a point.  There are newly discovered naturally growing plants that can be used for ethanol production, however.
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Iran is not the only nation who will suffer soon due to rising fuel prices. This country is in deep economic caca and while there may not be nationwide riots and strikes over cutbacks, there will be a cost -- what that is remains to be seen
As I said, "I'm waiting to see what happens."

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

triffid

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triffid

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