Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

[happyfunball]

happyfunball, call it what ever you want but the bottom line is that magnet array is a smot design and the swinging pendulum is nothing more then a runner. He will not be able to get the penduum to swing back and fourth more then he would if he didn't use the magnet array. Anything used to return the pendulum will use up the energy created. You are dealing with equals. You must use a unequal configuration before you can even think about it possibly working without the need of outside assistance.

I am done here. Good luck to you all and if you would like some help, pm me.

No, it's not a SMOT design. The YOG's array is boosted in the center, not a SMOT. Show me a pendulum which displays increasing gain with each pass. Equals? There's a visible gain. If you have any relevant videos or experiments, post a link.

[mscoffman]

Mark, the problem is that a smot can not produce enough power to get the runner back into the array. This is the same problem that this design is going to have. You can reverse the polarities to throw the runner but it still is not powerfull enough to re-enter the array.

@nightlife

Yes, I agree and realize that, but still I think your work shows that
it is possible to accelerate the weight. I have several ideas including
use of a pendulum and two vertically stacked mounted unidirectional
arrays, but getting the energy balance right is the key.  The pendulum
would supply vertical lift to the runner then *mostly* get paid back
at the other end. It saves having to induce rotational momentum
into a heavy weight then extraction of the energy back out again
or just pitching it away.

It just seems that if SMOT can do acceleration, then other array types
should expect that too. What may not work, is to reenter an array
in reverse which may extract any potential energy gain back out.

Come-on though; It seems as if, however slowly, experimental progress
is being made. And I consider this exciting.

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quote author=happyfunball link=topic=8051.msg226422#msg226422 date=1265208952]
So far, all you have done is post a link to a SMOT. Not relevant in the least.
What Howard is trying to do is not simply to utilize a magnetic array and
gravity. Rather, it's the combination of a magnetic array and the momentum
of a weighted pendulum. If you have a link to video of that, then post it.
Otherwise, enough with the SMOT.
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This is why I didn't post a link...wattbuilder says his array is not SMOT.
But SMOT's does seem to have something about to say about other
array types.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[WattBuilder]

ALL,
Here’s a picture of the Throw Method’s arm. I still need to install the fix magnets that will hold the small lever to throw the drive magnet forward.

If the fix magnets gives me too much problems, I will use some sort of lock and pin. (Mechanical or Electrical)

Howard

[happyfunball]

Thanks for the update

[WattBuilder]

ALL,
Here’s where I am at with the “throw method”.

It seems that the array on my test YOG is not strong enough.

What I’m finding is while the counter weight of the pendulum is flipping the small lever forward. The momentum is reduced greatly due to the fix position of the holding magnets. Another thing that was found was when the small lever finishes the flip. The main lever is at a closer position to the array, starting the next cycle. Instead of further away.

Conclusion is to not fight the momentum but to go with it. The YOG must have the room to advance or resistance losses will take over. A stronger array may still be a viable solution to this throw method.

Another thing that I mentioned earlier was the use of a lock and pin. I was thinking of using it at the end of the small lever. Allowing for advancement in the swing while locking it in at variable range positions ageist a backboard.

So far the original servo method seems to be the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

The data I get still points towards a stronger array and increasing the scale.

For the new readers,
The reason why I’m trying these new methods is because I do not have the funding and resources to build a larger scale that will finalize everything. So the best I can do for now is to try to find a way to orientate the drive magnet under the parameters of the wooden test YOG you see.

Regards,
Howard