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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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mscoffman

SMOT arrays have been shown on youtube that power a runner
into an array, then accelerate the runner, then let the runner
exit the array. So in my opinion it has been shown that SMOT
arrays can be used to generate excess energy. There was no proof
provided that a magnetically reversed runner would go through
the array backward and also accelerate. So it's something to think about,
specifically, turning off the runner by moving it away from the array
(R^2 decreasing the field), on the retrace. The pendulum center
motion would then be biased slightly in one direction.

:S:MarkSCoffman

WattBuilder


Thanks Dumbas,
It’s been my pleasure conversing with the members here. As they are truly more energy Out then In.   :)


@Mscoffman,
Good point on turning off the runner magnet in one-way arrays, whether it’s a SOMT, a V-gate or HJ Circle Square gate; ect.

For me on those I like to rotate the runner magnet vertically, so on the return swing the magnet is out of the field.  However I do feel those one-way arrays have a stronger force then the bi-directional arrays like the one I have on my test YOG. This area will certainly still need to be explored.

Howard


nightlife

Mark, the problem is that a smot can not produce enough power to get the runner back into the array. This is the same problem that this design is going to have. You can reverse the polarities to throw the runner but it still is not powerfull enough to re-enter the array.
I provided a video of a runner being pulled in and then exiting an array but the problem is getting the runner back up to the hieght of the array to repeat the process. If a runner can not make it back and pass the point of start without assistance, it can not produce any excess energy. The assistance will cost more then the energy created. At best, the only thing that could be achieved is perpetual motion which would end with the slightest amount of load added. When dealing with magnets and or gravity, you are dealing with equal forces. Niether can be used to produce becuase equals can only copy each others oposite motion.
You can use a magnetic array to over come gravity's equal force but the array will not over comes it's own force. Just like you can use gravity to over come a magnetic arrays equal force but it will not over come it's own.
To over come the equal forces, you have to have an odd configuration. Like four arrays and three arms. If Howard was to use three differnt arms fixed as close to equal distances apart as he can get them, he may then be able to create free energy. He must over come the equal forces by using a odd configuration. 1 to 2 is not enough, it must be at least 2 to 3 and I suggest at least 3 to 4 to get the best results. This way you have 2 arms pushing one thru the gate at all times.

happyfunball

Quote from: nightlife on February 03, 2010, 08:21:17 AM
Mark, the problem is that a smot can not produce enough power to get the runner back into the array. This is the same problem that this design is going to have. You can reverse the polarities to throw the runner but it still is not powerfull enough to re-enter the array.
I provided a video of a runner being pulled in and then exiting an array but the problem is getting the runner back up to the hieght of the array to repeat the process. If a runner can not make it back and pass the point of start without assistance, it can not produce any excess energy. The assistance will cost more then the energy created. At best, the only thing that could be achieved is perpetual motion which would end with the slightest amount of load added. When dealing with magnets and or gravity, you are dealing with equal forces. Niether can be used to produce becuase equals can only copy each others oposite motion.
You can use a magnetic array to over come gravity's equal force but the array will not over comes it's own force. Just like you can use gravity to over come a magnetic arrays equal force but it will not over come it's own.
To over come the equal forces, you have to have an odd configuration. Like four arrays and three arms. If Howard was to use three differnt arms fixed as close to equal distances apart as he can get them, he may then be able to create free energy. He must over come the equal forces by using a odd configuration. 1 to 2 is not enough, it must be at least 2 to 3 and I suggest at least 3 to 4 to get the best results. This way you have 2 arms pushing one thru the gate at all times.

So far, all you have done is post a link to a SMOT. Not relevant in the least. What Howard is trying to do is not simply to utilize a magnetic array and gravity. Rather, it's the combination of a magnetic array and the momentum of a weighted pendulum. If you have a link to video of that, then post it. Otherwise, enough with the SMOT.

nightlife

happyfunball, call it what ever you want but the bottom line is that magnet array is a smot design and the swinging pendulum is nothing more then a runner. He will not be able to get the penduum to swing back and fourth more then he would if he didn't use the magnet array. Anything used to return the pendulum will use up the energy created. You are dealing with equals. You must use a unequal configuration before you can even think about it possibly working without the need of outside assistance.

I am done here. Good luck to you all and if you would like some help, pm me.