Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

[MileHigh]

Howard:

So you're claiming that the one cycle YOG video does not show gain energy from the magnetic array. That is lifting 12lbs of weight higher then without the magnets.

I clearly see the "gain" in energy for the one cycle.  Your fundamental flaw is that it would be more appropriate to call that a half-cycle.  You simply have to account for the full cycle (left swing then right swing) in the operation of the device.  In your second last clip you clearly show how during the second half of the cycle you loose energy and the pendulum does not come back all the way, which is exactly the same thing that happens in Adminonduty's clip.  The pendulum by definition has to do the two half-cycles to complete a full cycle.  The net energy gain when it swings through the two half-cycles to do a single full cycle is zero.  This is an intellectual leap that your mind has to make to truly understand what is going on.

Howard Johnson never delivered anything that actually worked from what I could gather by doing some critical researching online.  He passed away and his "research" has been actively been promoted as part of the mythos of free energy devices by those people that stand to gain financially because of this.  Is someone out there selling Howard Johnson books or DVDs?  I bet you they are and it would take me about five minutes worth of searching to dig this up.

Synchro1:

No need to start name calling.  That also applies to you too Howard.  You made a couple of vague postings here and on the EF about a "pulse solenoid with power recovery" to flip the magnet around and you even believe that this could be an OU device and the battery powering it will never need charging.  I can tell by your choice of words that you have only a very basic and very limited knowledge about energy and electronics and what you are saying is simply not going to work.  You are simply fantasizing about an imaginary device that will somehow flip the magnet for Howard's pendulum without being able to give precise details.  If you think that I am simply giving you a hard time then I challenge you to post a schematic and build it.  Post the schematic first and explain how you think it will work first though because I am 100% confident that I could explain to you how it will NOT work and I don't want you to waste your time any more than I want Howard to waste his time.

It's nice to fantasize that a swinging pendulum with a "Howard Johnson" magnet array could be a source of free energy.  The reality is that looking at your clips it is obvious that there is nothing there.  This is no surprise and countless people have tried to do something similar before and all of them have failed.  It's not because they made a mistake in their designs or theories, it's because the real theory - the real thing - states that this is impossible.

It's all about understanding how magnetic potential energy can be converted into rotational kinetic energy and vice-versa.  The gravity is not really a factor because it is energy-neutral.  The magnets are also energy-neutral, acting exactly like massless invisible springs.

You can allege that I am a "bad guy" all you want, but the truth is that I am a "good guy."

MileHigh

[markdansie]

@wattbuilder
as I said "ignorance is bliss". It seems you do not accept rational debate or questioning of your theories which have not been supported with any evidence that is beyond reasonable doubt.
When people are trying to help in pointing out possible flaws, you say they are clouding the issues.
Take some advice, go read the Mylow thread. Many peoples reputations were destroyed over that.
I have nothing more to say on this matter, but keep your eye on google as your name has been promoted to scam status (not by me, but you must realise many hundreds read this forum). It often amazes me the number of emails I get far exceed the posts on the forums in these cases.

Ali knows first hand my intentions and assistance I am willing to provide and how that assistance can be helpful in progressing a project. Ali is making great progress and I am sure we will be hearing from him soon. Ali was willing to listen to people with the expertise needed to assist him and not discount what they say. He is a brilliant man himself with the wisdom to know that others could help him rather than bury his head in the sand as you have chosen.
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However it seems that if we do not accept your theories and evidence as presented then we are wrong and are harmful to you. What a lot of BS You will gather your following of believers (self deceivers) and I hope you enjoy your ten minutes of fame.

Often I am attacked (and yes my family has even been physically threatened) when I have conducted tests or arranged testing for devices when the results are not what the inventor wanted to hear.

Actually I must thank you at this stage. It is people like you who enhance my reputation and credability. Thank you.

I and many other do want to help, but your arrogance and ego seem to be self defeating.
Good Luck (PS I do mean luck as you have abandoned rational thought and logic)

I will not clutter this thread for a while , i will just drop in now and then and say hi

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
PS that's my real name and my real email is markdansie@bigpond.com

[synchro1]

@Mile High
Yu claims his bi directional track accelerates the reversed magnet the same amount in both directions. How do you account for the apparent equal acceleration both ways when your theory would generate an unequal one? Any off the shelf solenoid would move a throw arm with a lever and pitman
that would turn a wheel 180 degrees. Who are you to insult my vocabulary?
You don't take the time to try and understand what people are saying. I never said the unit would self power. I included a Joule thief charger for that.

[MileHigh]

Synchro1:

I already explained that even if you could rotate the magnet by 180 degrees with a perfect stystem you would still have to expend energy to rotate the magnet against the magnetic field generated by the array.

If you think that you have a truly viable system for rotating the magnet then post mechanical and schematic diagrams and explain how it would work, talk is cheap.

I never said the unit would self power. I included a Joule thief charger for that.

You seem to be contradicting yourself.  A Joule Thief charger?  Like I said above, you are just throwing catch phrases around without any real meaning.   You can't just "throw a Joule Thief" at the problem.  You should avoid the temptation to speak in free energy pseudo techno babble.  You have to be specific and real.

The bottom line is that any unpowered mechanical system to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees would stop the pendulum cold in it's tracks in three or four cycles.  Any mechanical system powered by a battery to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees would require way more battery power than you could ever possibly extract from the pendulum.  Plus the only reason that you would have an apparent "gain" for each half-swing if you rotate the magnet by 180 degrees is because you are "forgetting" about the amount of energy you would have to expend to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees against the resistrance of the array's magnetic field.  It's a no-win situation.

MileHigh

[WattBuilder]

@MileHigh,
It’s clear how your mind rationalize things.
In my demo video I said one swing is a cycle. Then your mind changes the definition into two swings are a cycle. Then you compute the swing does not come back all the way. Of course it doesn’t that way. You did not add in the flip in between the swing.

Your whole grounds for logic is irrelevant until you can get past this.

I clearly see the "gain" in energy for the one cycle.  Your fundamental flaw is that it would be more appropriate to call that a half-cycle.  You simply have to account for the full cycle (left swing then right swing) in the operation of the device.  In your second last clip
you clearly show how during the second half of the cycle you loose energy and the pendulum does not come back all the way, which is exactly the same thing that happens in Adminonduty's clip.  The pendulum by definition has to do the two half-cycles to complete a full cycle.  The net energy gain when it swings through the two half-cycles to do a single full cycle is zero.  This is an intellectual leap that your mind has to make to truly understand what is going on.

Even Synchro1 pointed it out to you.

He is contributing â€" listing at theories, looking at data and giving a suggestion on how to move forward.

As far as the name calling! Didn’t you post this to me from the start of the thread?

It is crystal clear to me that what you are doing is without merit, you are chasing after a pipe dream.  I know that you will disagree hence my suggestion for the one-year time limit.

MileHigh

@Mark Dansie,

Great ! Take a break collect your thoughts!

Maybe now the other members of this community will get a chance to post.

Mark Dansie and MileHigh you are both welcome to come back to this thread later when more advancements have been made. Simply I’m not finish. Just remember to allow other members views and not dominate theirs.


Howard Yu
YOG Gain Video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk