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Overunity Machines Forum



Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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WattBuilder

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 29, 2009, 01:59:39 AM
what I would like to understand is how people can't see past the illusion of Kinetic energy transfer.

Gravity and Magnetism only transfer kinetic energy. they are carriers of the kinetic force.

the only thing you can improve on such devices is their means to 'store' kinetic energy more efficiently!

I suggest a few M.I.T classes would help out a lot.

Jerry 8)

Jerry,

I don’t believe there are any illusions, the YOG harness kinetic energy from the magnetic array. It will store the kinetic energy until released and transfer into another form of energy like electricity.

Generally, pendulums have similar abilities in storing kinetic energy like a flywheel.
There is research today underway to transfer this into electricity. It’s known as ”flywheel technology” and is being conducted by MIT and NASA among many other companies.

I am among the few researchers in the pendulum category. 

Here are some reference links:

http://www-power.eecs.berkeley.edu/publications/theses/PerryPhDThesis.pdf

http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2009/04/08/flywheel-energy-storage-a-much-greener-90-efficient-battery/

I really don’t feel like debating with every forum member who disagree, please be patience there will be more data.   
Respectfully   ;)

Howard





onthecuttingedge2005

Hi Howard.

might I suggest using better engineering tactics to promote your YOG.

use radii lines directly on the YOG wheel with some top dead center above it, take some direct video shots on the top dead center so we can view the radii gain.

then place the pendulum at say 3 o'clock position at start and release it, the pendulum should if you are correct pass up the 9 o'clock position on the opposite side if the magnets are indeed adding energy to the system.

try to avoid all the angled video shots and rely more on accurate measurement shots, I am a stickler for accuracy measurements and good reliable data.

if you can please the mathematicians then you have it made. that's where it's at.

thanks for the videos and any in the future you may make. it passes my time when I've watched everything else under the sun.

Jerry 8)

MileHigh

CuttingEdge:

Quotethen place the pendulum at say 3 o'clock position at start and release it, the pendulum should if you are correct pass up the 9 o'clock position on the opposite side if the magnets are indeed adding energy to the system
.

Chances are the pendulum will pass the 9 o'clock position but that will not be proof that the magnets are adding energy to the system.

If you pass 9 o'clock swinging from right to left then you have to do the test in the other direction.  When you release the pendulum at 9 o'clock the pendulum will not make it to 3 o'clock, because the magnets are taking energy out of the system.

The added energy in the first swing is canceled out by the lost energy in the second swing.

MileHigh

WattBuilder

Onthecuttingedge,

Although I do feel that am sharing, instead of promoting here.
I did a similar test that you mentioned that was posted on this thread. It’s called the YOG gain method.

There is gain, experiments not only from me but from three others mentioned on this thread from magnets.


Quote from: MileHigh on November 29, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
CuttingEdge:

Chances are the pendulum will pass the 9 o'clock position but that will not be proof that the magnets are adding energy to the system.

If you pass 9 o'clock swinging from right to left then you have to do the test in the other direction.  When you release the pendulum at 9 o'clock the pendulum will not make it to 3 o'clock, because the magnets are taking energy out of the system.

The added energy in the first swing is canceled out by the lost energy in the second swing.

MileHigh


MileHigh,
There you go again trying to confuse people.
Once the orientation has been changed it does go past the 3 o’clock position. It’s shown in my video with the servo.  ???

And before the new comers jump up a down, yes…. the servo requires energy to turn … for haven sake  :(


Howard


WattBuilder

ALL,

Well, the power test results are in and to me the results are disappointing with this turbine.

I used an Ametek 38V DC servo as the turbine. It has the lowest drag resistance that I was able to get my hands on. In the picture below you can see the skew iron on the armature. This reduces the cogging to the point where I wasn’t able to feel it with my fingers.   

The test was performed on the YOG during one cycle starting at the 2 o’clock position and just letting it swing once. I then repeated this test ten times and averaged the high voltage reading unloaded.

Lead weight = 16 volts dc average
Drive magnet = 17 volts dc average
No weight = 23 volts dc average

Note: I didn’t measure time of production.

The return swing wasn’t that great either. I will have to increase the counter weight to get better oscillating motion. I also may have to change the magnetic array configuration in order to get a stronger force pushing the drive magnet or just find better turbine.

Howard Johnson was able to measure 12-14lbs of force on the train with his magnetic array as seen in this video 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndRrCZiM1CU

If I can achieve this I may probably have it made without scaling.

Howard