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On Frequencies and Fireballs

Started by darkspeed, September 26, 2009, 03:17:17 AM

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darkspeed

Quote from: Grumpy on September 26, 2009, 05:45:38 PM
How does this energy mobilize current?

Quote from: darkspeedAn electron at rest at quantum level looks like two wave forms inverse and superimposed - ball form
As an electron get closer to the speed of light this wave from will reduce in amplitude, increase in length - flattens out into a string

Take the end of a wire, at high dc bias, and slam another wavefront down it. The electrons at the end get ejected at a critical level near or at the speed of light ( some think faster ). These electron strings are of a shape and velocity as to not only pass through metals (until they are slowed down by eddys) but also to create a delta shaped disturbance in the metal much like breaking the sound barrier displacing MANY electrons in its wake. I give it a high chance of being correct

When the ejected energy hits its target it plows through displacing a lot of energy.

Think one side voltage rising without appreciable current and the receiving end current rising without appreciable voltage but then suddenly ohms law takes place lol... and due to resistance the score is settled

Grumpy

What is the ejected energy composed of?

Is it diverted by electric potentials?

Does it follow magnetic lines?

If the carriers of this energy, be they photons or particles, have a magnetic moment, is their magnetic field inducing the current in conductors that they interact with?

What is the easiest, brute force way to get from point A to point B so that you get C?
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darkspeed

Quote from: Grumpy on September 26, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
What is the ejected energy composed of?

Is it diverted by electric potentials?

Does it follow magnetic lines?

If the carriers of this energy, be they photons or particles, have a magnetic moment, is their magnetic field inducing the current in conductors that they interact with?

What is the easiest, brute force way to get from point A to point B so that you get C?

I honestly do not know, its moving too fast to ask it..
It would have to be some form of electron or condensed em.
I am very surprised  there is no harmful radiation produced when it is intercepted.
I get localized ionization but no x or gamma.. so far..

From what i have seen so far is it will couple to potentials in its direct path but it is moving too fast to divert or bend.

It could be a magnetic field being pushed ahead of it or it could be actual Collision.
If it was pushing a field like a bullet pushes air the wake could be disruptive enough to pull a lot of electrons out of orbit in the target.
Once these electrons were liberated they then would flow with potential.

Once it is readily repeatable then it is testable.

I would say
stage one - replicate the event into a collector..
Stage two - perfect the magamp function
stage three - devise a dynamic modulation relative to load
stage four - loop it

giantkiller

This ties in nicely with David SLigar's doc. This is a nice transition from standard electron theory to high speed physics using magnetic fields.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/3075/mfield.html

He talks about the primary object of the electron / photon exhibiting different properties at different speeds wheres as @darkspeed is mentioning the effects of interference including trajectories of objects at different speeds impacting. The blast hole in the metal sheet to the sound barrier exhibit was a pivotal cross over. This is also a good explanation of the effects of Keely's process'.

QuoteBecause higher frequencies have more energy (E=hf), they deliver more mass (E=mc2). Einstein understood that light quanta (photons) are a mass transfer mechanism. The flux quanta (flowing particles) or photon exchange frequency is thus mass in motion and is the force of a magnetic field. The frequency and number of photons exchanged must be extremely high to exert physical attraction or repulsion.

The implication is that the frequency creates a force that is a physical mass connection, hf=mc2. Different magnet compounds should have different frequencies since photons are emitted/absorbed by electrons. If an electron is throwing out a stream of photons while orbiting/spinning, you can visualize a corkscrew or helix stream of photons!

A photons wavelength is measured as a distance along a line through the center of the helix in one revolution around the helical trajectory. A flat projection side view of a helix looks like a sine wave.

Low frequency photons (such as radio waves) are often described in terms of wavelength (units in meters), while high frequency photons (such as gamma particles) are often described in terms of particle mass energy (units in electron volts). As you increase the energy by increasing the frequency, you wind up with photons of more measurable mass. At the high frequency end of the electromagnetic spectrum are high energy photons known as gamma rays, which are streams of gamma particles. Beta particles are free electrons or positrons. Alpha particles are the nucleus of helium atoms.

In every day life, you can understand that energy is proportional to frequency if you understand a concrete hammer drill will deliver more energy to the drill hole if it hammers at a frequency of 10 strokes per second instead of 1 stroke per second.

In a prior conversation with Ironhead and JDO300, IH mentioned the O-scope sine wave being a flat representation of a helical structure.

Quotestage one - replicate the event into a collector.. Did this many times over.  8)
Stage two - perfect the magamp function Investigating this at the moment.  ;)
stage three - devise a dynamic modulation relative to load In the mind que.  ???
stage four - loop it Like the snake biting it's tail.  :o

Quote from: darkspeed on September 27, 2009, 03:21:18 AM
I honestly do not know, its moving too fast to ask it..
It would have to be some form of electron or condensed em.
I am very surprised  there is no harmful radiation produced when it is intercepted.
I get localized ionization but no x or gamma.. so far..

From what i have seen so far is it will couple to potentials in its direct path but it is moving too fast to divert or bend.

It could be a magnetic field being pushed ahead of it or it could be actual Collision.
If it was pushing a field like a bullet pushes air the wake could be disruptive enough to pull a lot of electrons out of orbit in the target.
Once these electrons were liberated they then would flow with potential.

Once it is readily repeatable then it is testable.

I would say
stage one - replicate the event into a collector..
Stage two - perfect the magamp function
stage three - devise a dynamic modulation relative to load
stage four - loop it

Grumpy

In the paper I posted a link to that discussed how electrons begin to drift in a conductor, a traveling wave of dispacement current initially travels along the outside of the wire and pulls electrons with it at it's velocity (C - give or take)

Repeated reflections of this displacement current cause more and more electrons to drift as the energy diffuses into the conductor.

The link is:

http://www.google.com/url?url=http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/eserv/UQ:9792/saha-edwards-aup.pdf&rct=j&sa=U&ei=vXi_SvL_JNLr_AaK74WCBQ&ct=res&cd=1&sig2=9ivonCUCUzWCr0BQKFcNew&q=electrons+current+diffuses+displacement+conductor+edwards&usg=AFQjCNECf3P_pak1lkQY7cvzDF3KwKKJDw

Sticking with the initial impulse, we have a traveling wave hauling ass along the wire and pulling electrons like a venturi effect - perhaps causing Chef's puncture from an arc through aluminum.

So what change does the "system" undergo during the rise of the initial pulse?  Immediately on closing of the circuit, there is a very sudden change in the polarization of the space around the conductor - a polarization current - radial around the conductor.  When this occurs and it's rate of propagation / change (velocity?) exceedes the speed of light in the system, which can be much lower than C, then the shockwave similar to braking radiation occurs. 

This is not a particulate energy.  I would guess that it is photon-based, but only for lack of a better explanation.

Does the fall of the pulse "reset" the system?   I suspect that it does and a slow fall slows the reset, and falling below the baseline, should reverse the effect.

Have you found that the repetition rate is related to the impedance of the item being excited?

Have you ever tried exciting Litz or simlar multiconductor?  It is a guess that  it is detrimental, and I have never heard of anyone trying this.

You mentioned MOSFET's before (840's), are you using one to start the pulse and another to stop it? 

Have you tried them in avalanche mode? 

How high of a voltage / current are you using?

The cross-talk between the MOSFE's may be some sort of standing wave effect (it looked like a clean sine wave) between the switches.  One side of the switch looks like a brick wall, so it reflects between them.   

How long did this reflection occur before it smoked the MOSFET's or dissipated?  This is very significant even if no one else sees it as such.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards