The Electric Field: Testatika, Lifter, Piezo, Diode, Crystal battery

[PaulLowrance]

Is it possible that the distilled water is becoming contaminated over time with graphite or other impurities? Maybe remove some of the distilled water and test its conductivity.

By the way, I like your direction, tapping into the energy in an electric field. I've been trying the same thing though by manipulating the electric field at the input and less so by manipulating the matter in a steady field, as you seem to be trying. Keep up the good work.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Thanks. Your experiments sound good as well.

It's difficult to say if it's due to contamination, or perhaps some of it, but I doubt it because it seems to be the opposite effect. As you pointed out, if contamination builds up over time, then the electrochemical effects would increase over time, but that's the opposite of what's occurring. It slowly peaked at over 30 mV, and slowly began to decline. Now it's well below 1 mV.

In a moment I'll post how much resistance the plastic should have to get an idea how much current we could expect from this.

Regards,
Paul

[PaulLowrance]

This is interesting, according to resistivity of the plastic, dimensions of the plastic in this experiment, and the 1300 volts, the current should only be 1.1e-17 amps !! Yet for ~ a month it was a few nano amps.

That means for ~ a month the current was ~ 200 million times higher. It's been running for several months now, and just an hour ago it was 30 pA, which is 3 million times higher. We'll have to see if it behaves like diodes & piezos, which is stabilize at ~ 10 pA.

There might be some slight breakdown effect here in the plastic, but I've never seen any equations for that. The best way is probably just to measure the DC current leakage from the 1300 volt supply.

The calculations:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/12/hv-experiment-resistivity/

Regards,
Paul

[Steven Dufresne]

It's difficult to say if it's due to contamination, or perhaps some of it, but I doubt it because it seems to be the opposite effect. As you pointed out, if contamination builds up over time, then the electrochemical effects would increase over time, but that's the opposite of what's occurring. It slowly peaked at over 30 mV, and slowly began to decline. Now it's well below 1 mV.

Actually I would expect what you're seeing. If the contamination builds up over time and causes an increase in the conductivity of the water, then the voltage which you're measuring as per the diagram on your link below:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/12/high-voltage-experiments/
would drop and the current would rise (well, what little current there would be.) I know that if I create a two plate capacitor and I apply a high voltage across the plates with a power supply, if ionization increases between the plates then the voltage measured across the plates using a high voltage probe drops. You're not measuring across the HV plates but the foils you are measuring across are in the HV field and the voltage you are measuring is a result of that field. Anyway, that's just my take on it based on my experience.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[PaulLowrance]

Actually I would expect what you're seeing. If the contamination builds up over time and causes an increase in the conductivity of the water, then the voltage which you're measuring as per the diagram on your link below:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/12/high-voltage-experiments/
would drop and the current would rise (well, what little current there would be.) I know that if I create a two plate capacitor and I apply a high voltage across the plates with a power supply, if ionization increases between the plates then the voltage measured across the plates using a high voltage probe drops. You're not measuring across the HV plates but the foils you are measuring across are in the HV field and the voltage you are measuring is a result of that field.

That's wrong because the current is decreasing. Above you said, "and the current would rise"   I am measuring the voltage directly across a 10 Mohm load. I would agree with you that *if* it was due to a slow increase in contamination, then the current should rise over time. Again, that is the opposite of what is happening. The current is slowly decreasing over time.

Regards,
Paul

[Steven Dufresne]

That's wrong because the current is decreasing.

Ah... I missed that.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org