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Meyers Type WFC - the Key to Efficiency

Started by TheCell, September 30, 2009, 12:58:59 PM

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TheCell

I have got the dave lawton circuit (pwm), a ferrite rod , some insulated wire a 2 pairs of 18' tubes.
So I fetched one pair and reduced the outer tube in length to resonate at the same freq as the inner tube.
I connected the pwm , the minus to the inner tube , and was able to get some bubbles with a rate of 1 per 5 sec. (Gating off) at almost no current. (Analog Meter)
All with destilled water.No adds.
I got no scope now , but I will get one.

It would be nice, if someone could clarify some things, whether they are important, or not:

Resonance : The mechanical resonance of the pair of tubes I currently use is about 920 Hz.
So the pwm has a gating frequency and a frequency of the burst, which is much higher.
Must the burst frequency be equal the mechanical resonance frequency of the tubes?
(Not mentioning that the mechanical resonating frequency in water is not the same as in the air)
Is it correct to say that the cell acts as a capacitor , when connected in series with the bifilar wound coil that would give a serial resonance circuit (LC).
Must the resonance frequency of this serial resonance circuit be tuned to the mechanical resonance freq. of the tubes ? Well this could be only done by varying the impedance of the bifilar coil?
Can you determine exactly which part of the circuit must resonate ?

Is the bifilar coil wound that way?
http://mazeto.net/lib/0---voda---0/resonance/chokes/crux1.htm
Picture by first poster : crux_wfc

Has it a greater Impedance that a normal coil when wound in that way?

Or is resonance not the key to efficiency?

Regarding the Rosemary Ainslie circuit it is very similar to the mosfet power stage of the pwm.
It uses sharp spikes (with a raise time less than 10 us , if I remember correctly).
Another OU researcher Zoltan Szili has experimented with a simulation program,
that can use the Jiles-Atherton model of electromagnetism .
And if I got it right, the inductance retrieves that extra energy and resonance is not the key to get a good efficiency
with this circuit.

dankie

Well now that Xogen has received an official goverment grant , its clear that this is not some front company for defrauding investors . HHO is the way to go .

Stan Meyers's brother is a shareholder of that company , so I would listen to his interview very very carefully .

For the most active HHO site where people actually make things and actually save dollars , join ionizationx.com

Only GEET and HHO technology is allowed to be talked there , there is none of that other BS over there .

There much serious theorizing and maths posts and etc ... regarding the Stan and Xogen devices .

TheCell


HeairBear

When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking

TheCell

Wound this way , the resulting magnetic field would be zero.
Such a coil has no inductivity.
Its a simple resistor. Correct me if I am wrong.