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Beta Emission Nuclear Capacitor/Battery Reactors

Started by onthecuttingedge2005, October 12, 2009, 02:24:52 AM

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onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on March 23, 2010, 11:07:02 PM
@all + jerry

Notice:
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat4835433.pdf

http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm

http://www.google.com/patents?id=oKM5AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Sr-90 is also a beta emitter, but it's a compound that's is likely available by license from the Gov't, since it's used a lot in medicine.

-Lee

Is there some reason why the government don't want you to have it, I certainly agree if you do, they know that Nuclear Beta voltaic would compromise their best interests. NASA should only be allowed to use such technology in spacecraft interstellar or not, NOT!

there are various Isotopes that flip the bill that are not under extreme supervision and do the job.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on March 23, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
Is there some reason why the government don't want you to have it, I certainly agree if you do, they know that Nuclear Beta voltaic would compromise their best interests. NASA should only be allowed to use such technology in spacecraft interstellar or not, NOT! ...
Money talks loudly to these people.  It always did.
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...there are various Isotopes that flip the bill that are not under extreme supervision and do the job.
Paint in radio-luminescent watch dials might be one.  Thorium compounds, I think.  Widely available and inexpensive.  I do like the patent, but it takes way, waaaay specialized parts to be built.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on March 23, 2010, 11:39:43 PM
Money talks loudly to these people.  It always did.Paint in radio-luminescent watch dials might be one.  Thorium compounds, I think.  Widely available and inexpensive.  I do like the patent, but it takes way, waaaay specialized parts to be built.

you should never listen to a guy like me, you might learn something new. even if it is a couple of decades apart. still, there are those who don't even pay attention to technologists and the insults will still in-sue.

with solar voltaic coming up to +90 % efficiency and with beta voltaic energy I could clearly achieve OU, since the process to make them is 20,000 times less then the amount of energy they deliver, Beta voltaics produces 20,000 times more energy output than what it took to make its isotope.

I have been preaching about light trapping and light amplifcation techniques for a couple of decades now in solar tech, now it is finally coming full circle soon. but slowly. I hate the slowly part.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on March 24, 2010, 12:17:34 AM
I have been preaching about light trapping and light amplifcation techniques for a couple of decades now in solar tech, ...
I remember seeing, awhile ago, a patent application for a contraption that had a light bulb in the center that was surrounded by photosensitive sheet material which generated more power than the light consumed.  Cadmium sulphide was mentioned as an example.  There were others(like indium sulphide that were better, but more expensive).

There was no patent that I could see, since I believe the application was stalled or rejected by the Patent Office "powers that be".  Not surprising.  It was impressive in it's OU possibilities.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

eldon

Quote from: ZathEros on March 11, 2010, 10:17:29 PM
Cutting edge,
I have similar interests as yours.

Are you familiar with the British (GB763062) Coleman, Seddon-Gillespie patent? I have been collecting the goods to try and build this, but lack the chemical expertise. I have positioned myself working in a job that has placed decent rad gear in my possession. Accurate alpha, beta, neutron counters and  dosimeters etc. as well as being nuclear Haz-Mat trained. I have the RF expertise and gear to drive it. I just need some one with the Chemistry background. I think I have procured most of the chemicals to try it.

I read your list of beta emitters , FYI Cs-137  also pukes out copious amounts of Gamma-

Zatheros

I've looked at the Colman/Gillespie patent and something struck me about it.

I'm no expert in anything, but it seems to me that being patented in the 50's they may not have known exactly what was taking place.

That is, I see no studies or measurements of the supposed radiation emitted, to confirm that's what was indeed happening.


I have a theory about the operation of this device...

#1.
My theory is that the reason it has to be bombarded with a 300mhz shortwave signal is not to keep a reaction going, but rather to keep the quartz resonating, and while it does so, it is MOVING; OSCILLATING; UNDULATING at 300 cycles per second...WHILE securely fastened in place, and filled with metal salts(powder) that may or may not affect this movement...perhaps stabilizing it or something- keeping it from shattering. This movement puts it under mechanical stress, perhaps enough to build up an electrical potential like that which was described.

#2.
Perhaps the radiation to be shielded against is actually MICROWAVE radiation. (Not being an expert, I question those of you more knowledgeable than I- "Could a lead shield block microwaves?" I've read that the quartz was necessary because of heat buildup, but is it possible that this is from the 300mhz wave heating water molecules and/or a microwave frequency being emitted?

#3.
QUARTZ crystal was used. We know that quartz is a very special substance with unique properties. Under stress, it develops electrical potential. The stress also changes it's resonant frequency. Could this be the secret to free energy? Creating a quartz oscillator that gives off tremendous energy because of the stress of resonating to a specific frequency?