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Overunity Machines Forum



James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates

Started by Cloxxki, October 15, 2009, 08:53:55 AM

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Cloxxki

I wonder why this hasn't gotten much or any coverage here yet. Mylow numbness? Or are you too busy doing your own replications already?

It bugs me that James doesn't add more magnets around the wheel, or spaces them a bit further to get continuous rotation. But he seems sincere (as did Mylow, of course), and planning to make this happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CWIUjHl1F4

I am no-one magnet expert, but the steel plates doing initial attractive work, and then a relling magnet to push the rim magnets away, it just makes so much sense to me.

It seems somewhat related to Howard Yu's work on a magnet-actuated gravity oscillator, where really the gravity part seems to only be there to not make the magnet track be noticed as much. Not sure I'm saying this right, but use of steel plates seems to be used to re-direct part of the flux, and this way kill the usual sticky spot.

Am I too gullable, for wanting to see something significant in the above video?

Thanks for your thoughts,

J

carbonc_cc

Yea, I saw this a few days ago.  I thought it was interesting and started changing around my Mylow parts for this theory...  I'm not expecting much out of my build though.

spoondini

Cloxxki,
    I'd rather use the term hopeful as opposed to gullible.  Thanks for bringing to our attention.
    It certainly looks promising on the surface, however getting brief acceleration with a magnetic wheel has been done X thousand times before.  What nobody, including Mr. FreeMagneticEnergy has done is achieve continuous acceleration.  With every experiment I've witnessed, there has always been a 'sticky' spot which creates deceleration on each revolution. 
   What's not really clear in the videos is that the wheel must be brought through the sticky spot manually, and then he let's go and it begins to accelerate.  If the wheel could actually make a full revolution, you would see it slow down every time it approaches the plate (I think).
    I'm also not an expert, but I've researched and played with magnetic gates enough to know if it's possible, it's certainly not easy.  This is also why nobody has closed the loop on a SMOT ramp.
    I'm also 'hopeful' that there is a mechanism for getting useable work out of permanent magnets, but I admit it's just 'hope', I have not seen anything respectably demonstrated achieving unity - much less overunity.
    My personal belief is that if you could make a functioning magnetic gate, the acceleration would be fast, so fast that you better have thought of a mechanism to stop your wheel from accelerating from 0-1000 RPM's in a second.

Cloxxki

Hopeful, that I am.
I do not believe in things that are said to be technically impossible.

It really seems in teh vid that the acceleration stops when there are no more bottom neo's on the rim to go past the gate anymore. That part makes me near angry with anticipation, stuff that wheel with magnets already!

Here we seem to have a setup that is pretty well-dampened. Who knows, even if it "works", it's frictionless equilibrium may have a velocity ceiling.
I did read today that supposedly the US militairy is having difficulty with their permanent magnet engines, they won't shut off. The problems some of us have to deal with... But yeah, he who understand how magnets really work, is bound to get injured from his first attempt desintegrating before he was able to get away.

Cloxxki

Quote from: carbonc_cc on October 15, 2009, 09:02:54 AM
Yea, I saw this a few days ago.  I thought it was interesting and started changing around my Mylow parts for this theory...  I'm not expecting much out of my build though.
Thanks for responding! Really looking forward to your findings. And especially of course, if and so, where the sticky spot is going to come from.

I can also imagine a sure self-runner to stop when the plate gets magnetized beyond a certain level.