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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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sumermagor

I think we have to work together rather then alone in SM's case, it would be good if we set up a group, and every member experiment with different techniques,  and each time somebody done an experiment and it is not working we would tick one square out, so next time others dont waste their time with it. by this we are closing the ''not working'' and opening the door faster to the solution
and everybody would have contact in skype or something,

anybody say good idea?

best wishes
SM

agentgates

@Supermagor

The guys here were doing it this way over the years. I worked independently from them but sometimes I popped in to see what's going on. There is also a topic somewhere where they posted what has been tried already.

sparks

  Tesla used pitchblende on the surface of his insulated pipes down in the ground on his transmitter in New Jersey.
He needed to ionize the air down there to form a superconductor between the pipes and the Earth.  Only superconductors that are remotely affordable are plasmas.  Copper is a negative plasma but still has alot of problems with electrons going the wrong way due to their magnetic dipole moments interacting with the neuclear dipole moments.  Thermal agitation of the copper mass creates this resistance and why copper needs to be supercooled to act as a decent electron conduit.  Pitchblende contains radioactive decaying elements when electromagnetically stimulated will produce fast particles which will induce ionization of air.  The subsequent superconducter is like filling the tunnels Tesla made down in the ground with supercooled copper.  Tesla was really ingenious. 

   Below is what I feel Tesla was doing along with SM with copper mass.  By first creating a longitudinal sound wave within the stout copper bar attached to capacitor plates acting as electrostatic speakers.  Then by delaying the feed to one of the capacitor by use of either a piece of steel or a choke the standing wave appears to move.  This would be the introduction of a frequency of the same root but at a different time within the same resonant cavity.  This causes the nodes to move within the resonant cavity.  The nodes and antinodes appear to oscillate within the copper mass and the wave appears to travel.  The load is capacitavely coupled to fixed positions on the waveguide and will see voltage changes depending on the passage of the nodes and antinodes which alternately charge and discharge the load plates.
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wattsup

Wow, that midnight champagne really got to my brain, especially since I am not used to drinking. lol

Guys have some good points on the table. I don't know how to look at it all. Usually when postulating a TPU theory, it is very useful to describe function but to also point to the actual physicals of the known TPUs in order to make the theory to device link, otherwise we are left open to grand misunderstandings.

@sparks

I like the theory in general but, I think first and foremost, pitch was used on the grounding rods or pipes as a fast hardening and durable insulator, since those rods or pipes have to be insulated for the earth surrounding them. Looking at your drawing, it would seem to me that your complexity level is a good 8 of 10, when the SM TPUs should not be more then a 4 or 5. That's the way I try to keep things real when looking at ideas. SM was not a rocket scientist. He found one anomaly which is a great achievement during any one persons lifetime, maybe two anomalies at best would be considered rather exceptional. He took that and applied it in varying forms, but always keeping to the base function.

I guess what I am trying to say is if you, @sparks, can get such a device idea to pan out into a working device, then in my book you would be considered an SM times 10 given the level of complexity.

Re: @EMs video

Yes we have seen that video when he made it and it is discussed on another thread.

Don't forget that @EM was using a hidden transmitter in that video, or if I am mistaken please correct me.

But what I can retain from his video, if I am wrong in thinking he had a hidden transmitter is as follows, considering he had a ring (larger diameter loop) and a coil (smaller one with the light). And consider a future control coil (CC) wound over the ring. So ring with or without a CC and a coil.

This would have to be tested of course. Now if the ring/coil worked only with a nearby transmitter, it does not matter. What we want to learn about is the after effects. So leave the transmitter on.

1) Take the ring and make the coil LED light up as you usually do.
2) It works. Great.
3) OK now wrap a haphazardly wound copper wire CC over the ring and just leave it disconnected.
4) Now try the ring/coil LED again.
5) If the LED does not light up what does this mean. We need to know why a disconnected CC is acting like a cloaking medium.
6) If the LED does light up with a disconnected CC that would be totally great.
7) Now try it again but just connect the CC ends together and test again.
8) If the LED does not light up what does this mean. We need to know why a connected CC is acting like a cloaking medium.
9) If the LED does light up with a connected CC, again, that would be totally great.
10) If 9 is valid, then take the CC ends and apply a very small dc voltage to it. See the effect on the coil LED. Play with the applied voltage level to the CC and learn the effects.
11) If 10 is valid with a still lit LED on the coil, then remove the DC power supply and connect the CC ends in series with the coil. Try that one for size and see if the LED still lights or if it lights up stronger.
12) If 10 is not good and the coil LED is not lit, try the same thing but this time use a DC pulse and sweep all the frequencies to find a working frequency that will still light the coil LED.
13) If 12 is attainable, then make a small circuit that can pulse at the frequency found, put it in series with the coil and then put the CC in series with the coil and the circuit.

Bingo you are on your way. If none of the above works, then remove the copper CC coil and wind an aluminum CC wire. It may be that you need the pulse or straight DC without the CC magnetic field so the ring can still receive directly form the CC without being cloaked to send it to the coil/LED. if this works in a loop, try eventually shutting off the hidden transmitter and see if the device can be self feeding once it is started.

What I am trying to convey here is methodology. All experiments should have a methodology that can produce either positive or negative results, but regardless of the result, you are always moving forward in your knowledge accumulation. This is the long and tedious method we all should apply to our builds, whatever we decide to do.

Don't just build, test one thing, then decide it is not feasible. You could be a few steps away from a grand discover if you use some form of methodology. Otherwise, we may as well all learn to throw darts at flies. Good luck on that one.

So when you have a build, wean it for all it can show you. Like drawing water from a rock. This will make you a better and more pragmatic researcher and all together will aid in the mutual progression of this quest for FE. You do not have to relay all your results, just anything that really stands out of the ordinary. This way we are not overly saturated with data, unless of course if it presented in a cohesive manner.

All the best. Now back to the bench for me.

sumermagor

i have read that thread where they discussed EMdevices work,
and they said Steven Mark Is a big scammer.
But never know..
we havent been there. we havent seen the real parts and everything,
Do you guys think Tpu can be only just Somekind of Antenna which use power from your house wires?

Since I've read That Jack Durban Said who filmed the device, that he Steven Mark did not let him look at the device more closely, (parts)
everything is possible,
Anyway we have to continue, we might explore the real phenomena.
Best Wishes
Sumer