Magnetic Experiment Confirmed!

[PaulLowrance]

Okay, here's some interesting experiments. I replaced the metal bolt with another disc NdFeB magnet. So there's now two magnets. Dry paper was placed in the center, although we know that even dry paper has some water, but we don't know how much voltage & current that would produce in electrochemical reactions.


Here's the recent experiments:

It started out producing 0.1 volts, but continued to slowly *climb*. It went up to 0.15 volts, and then began slowly declining. Okay, so far this is a matches diode and piezo experiments. The EE, by profession, who connected his electrometer to a data logger (months ago), saw the same thing where the voltage slowly increased, and then it slowly decreased.

After it began to go down below 0.15 volts, I moved the probe wires that are connected to the magnets around to different locations. The voltage jittered around a bit, nothing unexpected, but didn't make much difference. I then took everything apart, separated the magnets. Put it back together, and the voltage was ~ 2mV; i.e., dead. Could it be "disturbed?"

So maybe it's not due to the paper. Then moving it to different locations on the paper would not change nothing. Or maybe the chemicals in the magnet were drained. Fine, so I flipped the magnets to the other side. So it's using the other side of magnet that's been unused so far. No change! The voltage was also low. It's as if handling the magnets disturbes then, which is also seen in diode & piezo experiments. There are a lot of ways to disturb the diodes-- rapid temp changes, current, if it's an LED then shining low levels of light on it place it in disturbed state for a long time.

I then cleaned the magnets, and tried it again. Same thing, low voltage.

Man I telling you there's something mysterious going on, and so far this matches the diode & piezo experiments. The only final thing is to see if the magnets recover when left undisturbed, which is what the diodes & piezos do.

Regards,
Paul

[PaulLowrance]

If it matters much, my NdFeB magnets are 0.47" diameter, 0.12" thick, and have a metal coating that's probably the typical nickel. The white paper thickness is 5 mills.

Paul

[Bulbz]

Bulbz,

Your experiment matches the theory. I would never in a million years expect a DMM to be able to read voltage on your experiment with the plastic bag because the resistance is astronomically high. I had to use an electrometer to see the voltage, but indeed I did measure 0.36 volts with a relatively thick plastic bag used as insulator.

So how can anyone explain why I measured 0.36 volts with plastic as insulator?

I find your findings of double thick paper that doubled the voltage very interesting. According to the mysterious diode theory, the diode & piezo want to be a current source; i.e., fixed current. So if you double the paper thickness, that doubles the resistance, and if the current is the same, then the voltage will double, V = I*R

Anyhow, my next post you'll see some interesting.

Regards,
Paul

So it may be my crappy DMM then 

Keep up the good work Paul. As I mentioned in my other post, I also believe there is usable energy in PM's somehow, and I reckon the government scientists know it !

[PaulLowrance]

Here's another experiment just done where the NdFeB magnets were switched with large Ferrite magnets. The same type of 5 mill white paper was used, and used electrometer to measure voltage,


First, 30mV. Remained relatively constant except with a *slow* decline.

Reversed the clips to see if the voltage flipped: -10mV.  Remained relatively constant except with a *slow* decline.

Reversed again: 9mV.  Remained relatively constant except with a *slow* decline.

Reversed again: -8mV.  Remained relatively constant except with a *slow* decline.

Reversed again: 2mV.  Remained relatively constant except with a *slow* decline.


As you can see, the polarity reversed, and with each reveral of the probe clip leads the voltage reversed, and also the voltage decreased by noticable amounts each time. So far this matches the diode & piezo behavior.

My best wild guess is that the NdFeB PM's are ~~ 5 Tesla, and the Ferrite magnets are ~~ 1 Tesla, but that could be way off.

The Ferrite magnets are rectangular, measuring 1.85 x 0.96" and 0.39" thick.


Regards,
Paul

[powercat]

Paul
sorry I could only find a 1uF or 2700uF capacitor so I went with 1uf, but I was not getting good readings with paper 17mV , so I decided to go back to the leaf, I needed a second one as the first one had already deteriorated, the new one produced 144mV, then I connected capacitor and voltage started to drop about 2 mV per second until the meter read 0 0.1
I will wait and see if there's any changes over time
cat