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A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena

Started by EMdevices, November 02, 2009, 09:40:48 PM

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EMdevices

Hello friends,

I've pondered the upside down phenomena exhibited by the first TPU  (FTPU) posted by Steven Mark, for quite some time.   Today as I was playing with my coils I realized that I have possibly stumbled on the phenomena.   

As you may recall,  the phenomena involves turning the TPU up-side-down and observing that it stops producing electricity.  In the video I don't actually have the coils tied together but you can see clearly that the order of the coils is important.

Electricity wires tend to pass through my wall a bit higher, perhaps in the attic and this might shed some light on the directionality.

Here's the link to my video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq657dgYT4

and here is a closeup of my resonant coils.

EM

P.S.  I hope none of you fault me for pursuing resonant magnetic fields.  All I have to do now is perfect my TPUs and add the all important OUTPUT STAGE.

poynt99

That's pretty cool EM.

How do you tune those coils to 60Hz with such a small inductance and capacitance?

Does it only work in one location in your house?

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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EMdevices

@poynt99

they are not tuned to 60 Hz, more like 25 kHz or so (haven't measured it in a while).  Like I mentioned in my previous postings of this nature, this high frequency energy is present on the house electricity wires, so it's not only 60 Hz that flows on those wires.

It works in many locations in my house, to varying degrees.

EM

poynt99

If you were to fix those two coils together at a relative position that gives a good intensity, what would happen if you moved around the room with it?

Seems to me that SM could move anywhere and with any orientation (later models).

Assuming those two coils are both tuned to the same frequency, it seems as though one acts as a kind of Fresnel lens focusing the EM energy into the other.

Is this 25khz one of the stronger harmonics there, or was this just a random choice of frequency?

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

EMdevices

The 25 kHz or so frequency is by no means arbitrary, I found it using my oscilloscope a while ago.  That's why I encourage people to determine a magnetic frequency first, and then work on tuning into it, just like SM said, but it seems to fall on death ears. Don't assume my frequency will be the same as your, it may or may not. 

I will try and tie those coils together so I have a stable unit I can use, or maybe I'll build another TPU with two coils on it.  Moving around the house I loose the signal, I really have to be close to the walls where there is wiring or lighting outlets, etc..  I have managed to improve the distance by using a resistor in series with the diode, but there are other arrangements I'm dying to try soon.  Judging from the diodes and the electrolytic capacitors seen in SM's large TPU, I want to use the same to charge up a capacitor and then I can use that energy with my classic inverters/blocking oscillators I've built in the past.  I think I should be able to power up a decent 40 watt or 60 watt light bulb in the near future.  (if you remember my first video, I was about 1 foot away from the wall, now I can be about 3 feet away)

The Fresnel lens is a good concept. The coil on top is the one that's not loaded so it vibrates more freely, so it can gather the energy a bit better and focus it close to my bottom coil, which is loaded.  By the way, the resistor is about 40 ohms, so it's loaded pretty good relative to the high impedance of a parallel resonant tank.

I just wish I had more time, now I'm back to work for the rest of the week. We'll see how I feel next weekend, I might start building something more complex...

EM