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A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena

Started by EMdevices, November 02, 2009, 09:40:48 PM

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Groundloop

@WilbyInebriated,

>>it would be nice if someone could respond to my questions with some substance.

EMdevices has found out that he is tapping power from the EML (electromagnetic
leakage) emanating from CFL lamps. By regulations, the manufacturer of such lamps
is required to put in a filter into the driver electronic so that the EML is lower than
approx. 100dBuV. The leakage that goes back to the power line is called the mains
terminal disturbance (conducted EMI). The oscillator inside the CFL lamp operate
on approx. 25KHz.

Now, 100dBuV is a very, very small power. If EMdevices has 10 CFLs running then
the radiated RF (radio frequency) is only 1dBmV. This is the same as 1.26 mW.
(milli Watt). This is the total power he has available around his coils.

Now, a red led as shown in the images uses (and let us be modest) 1,5 volt 10mA
to light as shown. This is the same as 15mW. In one image he had
3 LEDs lighting, so the total output was 45mW.

Now, Input = 1,26mW Output = 45mW, gives COP of 35 (approx.)

(Please correct me if I have the math wrong.)

Groundloop.


turbo

Quote from: poynt99 on November 17, 2009, 02:06:49 PM

WilbyInebriated adds nothing of substance to these threads, and only acts to disrupt them.


Are you suggesting Grumpy is adding anything of substance to the threads?????

Think Again.

Besides hes got his own little place doesn't he ?

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: -[marco]- on November 17, 2009, 02:21:53 PM
Thanks Stefan.

Okay Willy, your right.

You have to think further then the home wiring with this thing.
The fact that EM discoverd it works on his home wiring does not say this tech is no good because it spins the meter in his house, in this case.

As you know EM Fields are everywhere and at many diffrent power levels and frequencys.
This means there will not always be a meter spinning.
And if there is...it could be your neigtbours meter  ;D ;D ;D ;D
No thats just a joke man...or is it?

If you take a leap into the future you can also realize this can come in handy for recharging or even directly feeding electronic devices or even electric cars.
This way would be much safer to park you car on a charge point in stead of hooking up two dangerous high voltage connectors which wear down when used much.

That's only a quick sumup of the things i can come up with at this moment.
If we manage to extract power with this tech from natural sources it will become one of the finest available sources known to man kind.

Most of the time people do not realize the potential of certian things and they can eventually turn out to be a treasure for mankind.

Marco.
thanks marco.

good joke about the neighbors. :) i take their wifi, why not their mains power? ;)

thank you for the summation. i agree, if with this tech, power is extracted from natural sources, that would be something. by that i mean something along the lines of which you alluded to, "recharging or even directly feeding electronic devices or even electric cars."
until then i will refrain from getting too excited about theft of mains.

Quote from: Groundloop on November 17, 2009, 02:22:40 PM
@WilbyInebriated,

>>it would be nice if someone could respond to my questions with some substance.

EMdevices has found out that he is tapping power from the EML (electromagnetic
leakage) emanating from CFL lamps. By regulations, the manufacturer of such lamps
is required to put in a filter into the driver electronic so that the EML is lower than
approx. 100dBuV. The leakage that goes back to the power line is called the mains
terminal disturbance (conducted EMI). The oscillator inside the CFL lamp operate
on approx. 25KHz.

Now, 100dBuV is a very, very small power. If EMdevices has 10 CFLs running then
the radiated RF (radio frequency) is only 1dBmV. This is the same as 1.26 mW.
(milli Watt). This is the total power he has available around his coils.

Now, a red led as shown in the images uses (and let us be modest) 1,5 volt 10mA
to light as shown. This is the same as 15mW. In one image he had
3 LEDs lighting, so the total output was 45mW.

Now, Input = 1,26mW Output = 45mW, gives COP of 35 (approx.)

(Please correct me if I have the math wrong.)

Groundloop.
thanks groundloop. i am aware of what you posted, but it's good info for those who are not that might be reading. i could be wrong but i don't think that it is JUST the cfl's rf powering his loads. i think i'll refrain from getting too excited. when it is shown to run out in the boonies it might pique my curiousity...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

innovation_station

hey will morf the 2 ...  ;D

grab wifi and power from the free link ...  ;)

typical router is .5 watt...  lot more than 1.2 mili watt

so most routers 2.6ghz ...  marco plh for 2.6ghz?  lol

find lowest harmonic and tune away  ;D ;)


is

or some how make the coil tuned to 2.6ghz  but i think lower harmonics will be easyer ..
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: innovation_station on November 17, 2009, 02:39:19 PM
hey will morf the 2 ...  ;D

grab wifi and power from the free link ...  ;)

typical router is .5 watt...  lot more than 1.2 mili watt

so most routers 2.6ghz ...  marco plh for 2.6ghz?  lol

find lowest harmonic and tune away  ;D ;)


is

or some how make the coil tuned to 2.6ghz  but i think lower harmonics will be easyer ..
thanks ist, been there done that.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe