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Magnetic Gear

Started by Azorus, November 20, 2009, 02:27:19 AM

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Azorus

I am still kinda new here but I recently have been playing with my old magnets and though why not use them as gears.  I you put north on one spindle of a disk and north on another and have them spaced correctly wouldn't energy transfer be uniform?

mr_bojangles

gears tend to transfer energy with the least amount of friction possible

i am not positive as to what exactly you mean by putting north on a spindle, but i am not aware of a method to transfer energy between two magnets that behaves in a way similar to gears

im guessing you mean use opposing fields to transfer angular distance

the problem would be when you tried to put a load on the second magnet

you might be able to rotate it, but if you put resistance on it, it most likely wouldn't hold up


its an interesting idea and maybe you just need to play around with it and see what you can get to happen
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DreamThinkBuild

Lookup "Magnetic Gearing | Coupling | Transmission" in Google patents you'll find a lot of designs on this.

I'm wondering how you would go about calculating the ratio/power for magnetic gears? If you have one driving magnetic gear that is using 400lbs of force magnets and pushing a running magnetic gear that has 100lb of force magnets?

Heres a couple:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=sSAkAAAAEBAJ&dq=5569967
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=qv8wAAAAEBAJ&dq=4167684
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=ArkyAAAAEBAJ&dq=3814962

gravityblock

Halbach Arrays are also used in magnetic coupling.  Magnetic coupling devices transmit torque through magnetically transparent barriers (that is the barrier is non-magnetic or is magnetic but is not affected by an applied magnetic field), for instance between sealed containers or pressurised vessels.

The optimal torque couplings consists of a pair of coaxially nested cylinders with opposite +k and -k flux magnetization patterns, as -k magnetization patterns produce fields entirely external to the cylinder. In the lowest energy state, the outer flux of the inner cylinder exactly matches the internal flux of the outer cylinder. Rotating one cylinder relative to the other from this state results in a restoring torque.
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Azorus

Thanks for all the replies!  I was thinking though, if you have a CD spindle with all north facing magnets and another all north facing magnets, if you push them together where they align inbetween each other but still repel each other wouldn't that work?